Пројекат страница за разговор

Group:	Editing
Start:	2019-09-30
Team members:	Bartosz Dziewoński, David Chan, David Lynch, Marielle Volz, Rummana Yasmeen, Jess Klein, Sherry Snyder
Lead:	Ed Sanders
Management:	Marcella Florence (engineering), Jazmin Tanner (program), Peter Pelberg (product)

This page is a translated version of the page Talk pages project and the translation is 10% complete.

Other languages:

English • ‎Tiếng Việt • ‎Türkçe • ‎français • ‎polski • ‎svenska • ‎српски / srpski • ‎العربية • ‎中文 • ‎日本語 • ‎한국어

Ова страница описује рад тима за уређивање у циљу побољшавања начина на који сарадници комуницирају на страницама за разговор на Википедији.

It contains information about the goals of this work, the past efforts that have influenced it and why evolving talk pages is a priority right now.

To follow how this project is developing, the team recommends visiting and/or adding the Talk pages project/Updates page to your watchlist. If you would like to be invited to conversations about specific topics, please add your name to the "Notification list" here: Talk pages project/Participate

Активне иницијативе

In this section, we list the projects actively being worked on and where and how they have currently been deployed.

Each project is an effort to improve contributors' experiences communicating productively on Wikipedia using talk pages.

Пројекти

Статус примене

Wiki	Reply tool	User signature requirements
Википедија на амхарском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	Implemented for new signatures
Википедија на арапском језику	Opt-out user preference	" "
Википедија на јерменском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на асамском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на баскијском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на бојпурском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на бурманском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на каталонском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Central Kurdish Wikipedia	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на кинеском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на чешком језику	Opt-out user preference	" "
Википедија на холандском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на француском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на грузијском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на хебрејском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на језику хинди	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на мађарском језику	Opt-out user preference	" "
Википедија на исландском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на италијанском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на јапанском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на корејском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на литванском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Maithili Wikipedia	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Marathi Wikipedia	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Mtton Wikipedia	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на непалском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на норвешком језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
N'Ko Wikipedia	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на пољском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на португалском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на пенџапском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на персијском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Santali Wikipedia	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на српском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Sinhala Wikipedia	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на шпанском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на шведском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на тамилском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на турском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на украјинском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Википедија на вијетнамском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Викиверзитет на енглеском језику	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
MediaWiki.org	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "
Meta-Wiki	Opt-in Beta Feature	" "

The Arabic, Dutch, French and Hungarian Wikipedias are participating in this project as "partner wikis". This means new communication tools for talk pages will be deployed to these wikis first so we can work together to refine them. If you would like to see these new tools deployed to your wiki, please leave a message on the talk page.

Отворена питања

This section contains questions the team could use your help trying to answer.

Starting a new discussion: Are there aspects about starting new conversation threads you find take a lot of effort? Are there you like? Please post a link or describe your experience here:

Share a story about a new discussion

Како можете да помогнете

If questions like the examples given in this section are interesting to you, please add your name to “Participate” subpage.

The ~40 people who already have, are contributing their expertise and experiences to ensure the new tools we develop as part of this project are valuable and useful to the editors who depend on talk pages to communicate, now and in the future.

Talk page experience - "When you think about your experiences using talk pages, are there particular memories that stand out to you?"
Design feedback - Here are mockups of Version 2.0 of the new Reply tool, what aspects of the design do you think could be made more clear?
Wiki expertise - "What do you think needs to be considered before the new Reply tool is enabled on pages outside talk namespaces?"

Новости

The best way to stay up to date about the project is by adding the “Updates” subpage to your watch list. The team will use this page to share information about new feature development, deployment plans and questions the team would value your input on.

Updates are typically posted every month. You can read the latest project update here: 16. октобар 2020.(2020-10-16) .

The other two places you might consider checking for updates are:

Phabricator - to see into the team's daily work.
Editing Team Newsletter - to receive highlights every 1-2 months about significant developments in the team's work.

Циљеви

Wikipedia depends on contributors collaborating, and communication is an important part of the collaborative process.

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Trouble is, communicating on Wikipedia happens on talk pages which can be challenging for contributors across experience levels to use.

Contributors with more experience report being slowed down by having to do something manual in order for other contributors "to know who posted what, and when, so they can follow the thread of a conversation, post on a user talk page if appropriate, and even just know whether a posting is recent enough to be worth responding to."

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Newer contributors on the other hand, find basic tasks, like replying to a comment, confusing. In some instances, these contributors even confuse talk pages for article pages.^[3]

The Editing Team has two key objectives with this project. To create tools that:

Make it more intuitive for newcomers to communicate with others so they can grow into productive contributors.^[4]
Give experienced contributors more leverage to communicate and coordinate their wiki work with others.

This project is an outcome of the 2019 Talk Pages Consultation, a 5-month long effort that brought volunteers on 20 wikis, across 15 languages and four projects (Wikipedia, Commons, Wikidata and Wiktionary) together with members of the Wikimedia Foundation to share their experiences with existing wiki communication tools and to help develop improvements to them.

The Talk pages project supports the Wikimedia Movement's Medium Term Plan. Specifically, the plan's Thriving Movement priority area which strives to "welcome and support newcomers." We think newer contributors learning and progressing depends on their ability to communicate with more experienced contributors, and by extension, to use talk pages intuitively.^[4]

Речник

The talk pages project glossary is intended to help us all communicate about talk pages more effectively by making sure we have a shared understanding about the words we use in our discussions and documentation throughout the project.

Извори

Many projects have, and are, working to improve contributors' experiences with talk pages. This particular project is better off for their existence. Some of the projects the team continues to learn from are listed below.

If there is a project and or resource you think we should be aware of, please say something on the talk page.

Talk page projects:

Најчешћа питања

When will the new version of talk pages be released?

There will not be a "new version" of talk pages that will get released all at once. Instead, this project will be made up of a series of incremental improvements that will be released over time.

How are talk pages going to change?

Some features may involve introducing new wikitext.

Although, any changes to wikitext will be limited to those that enable new features that benefit contributors. Features like replying to specific comments or watchlisting particular discussions.

Potentially changing where the "Discussion" tab exists on the page

Potentially changing where metadata – that currently exists atop some talk pages – is presented

The list above is not exhaustive and will likely change as the project progresses.

How long is this project likely to last?

1–2 years.

Сродне странице

Partner wiki discussions: