Projet Outils de discussion
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Talk pages
Améliorer la communication sur le wiki avec l'évolution de l'expérience par défaut des pages de discussion.
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Cette page décrit le travail de l'équipe d'édition pour améliorer la manière dont les contributeurs communiquent sur Wikipédia en utilisant les pages de discussion.
Elle contient des informations sur les objectifs de ce travail, les efforts passés qui l'ont influencé et pourquoi l'évolution des pages de discussion est désormais une priorité.
Pour être tenu informé de la façon dont ce projet est développé, l'équipe recommande de visiter et/ou ajouter la page Talk pages project/Updates à votre liste de suivi. Si vous souhaitez être invité aux conversations concernant des sujets spécifiques, veuillez ajouter votre nom dans la section S'impliquer ci-dessous.
Initiatives actives
Dans cette section, nous listons les projets sur lesquels les travaux sont actifs et précisons quand et comment ils sont actuellement déployés.
Chaque projet est un effort pour améliorer l'expérience des utilisateurs dans une communication productive sur les pages de discussion de Wikipédia.
Projets
- Réponse à des messages spécifiques
- Nouvelles exigences pour les signatures des utilisateurs
- Commencer une nouvelle discussion
État des déploiements
| Wiki | Outil de réponse | Outil nouvelle discussion | Exigences signature utilisateur |
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| Arabic Wikipedia | Opt-in Beta Feature | - | - |
| Dutch Wikipedia | Opt-in Beta Feature | - | - |
| French Wikipedia | Opt-in Beta Feature | - | - |
| Hungarian Wikipedia | Opt-in Beta Feature | - | - |
Questions ouvertes
This section contains questions the team could use your help trying to answer.
Starting a new discussion: Are there aspects about starting new conversation threads you find take a lot of effort? Are there you like? Please post a link or describe your experience here:
Comment vous pouvez aider
If questions like the examples given in this section are interesting to you, please add your name to this page: Talk pages project/Participate.
The ~40 people who already have, are contributing their expertise and experiences to ensure the new tools we develop as part of this project are valuable and useful to the editors who depend on talk pages to communicate, now and in the future.
- Talk page experience: "When you think about your experiences using talk pages, are there particular memories that stand out to you?"
- Design feedback: "Here are mockups of Version 2.0 of the new Reply tool, what aspects of the design do you think could be made more clear?
- Wiki expertise: "What do you think needs to be considered before the new Reply tool is enabled on pages outside talk namespaces?"
Mises à jour
The best place to stay up to date about the project is by adding this page to your watch list: Talk pages project/Updates.
The team will use the /Updates page to share information about new feature development, deployment plans and questions the team would value your input on.
Updates are typically posted every month. You can read the latest update here: 1 May 2020
The other two places you might consider checking for updates are:
- Phabricator: to see into the team's daily work.
- Editing Team Newsletter: to receive highlights every 1-2 months about significant developments in the team's work.
Objectifs
Wikipedia depends on contributors collaborating, and communication is an important part of the collaborative process.[1]
Trouble is, communicating on Wikipedia happens on talk pages which can be challenging for contributors across experience levels to use.
Contributors with more experience report being slowed down by having to do something manual in order for other contributors, "...to know who posted what, and when, so they can follow the thread of a conversation, post on a user talk page if appropriate, and even just know whether a posting is recent enough to be worth responding to." [2]
Newer contributors on the other hand, find basic tasks, like replying to a comment, confusing. In some instances, these contributors even confuse talk pages for article pages. [3]
The Editing Team has two key objectives with this project. To create tools that:
- Make it more intuitive for newcomers to communicate with others so they can grow into productive contributors .[4]
- Give experienced contributors more leverage to communicate and coordinate their wiki work with others.
This project is an outcome of the 2019 Talk Pages Consultation, a 5-month long effort that brought volunteers on 20 wikis, across 15 languages and four projects (Wikipedia, Commons, Wikidata and Wiktionary) together with members of the Wikimedia Foundation to share their experiences with existing wiki communication tools and to help develop improvements to them.
The Talk pages project supports the Wikimedia Movement's Medium Term Plan. Specifically, the plan's Thriving Movement priority area which strives to "...welcome and support newcomers." We think newer contributors learning and progressing depends on their ability to communicate with more experienced contributors, and by extension, to use talk pages intuitively.[4]
Glossaire
The glossary linked below is intended to help us all communicate about talk pages more effectively by making sure we have a shared understanding about the words we use in our discussions and documentation throughout the project:
Références
Many projects have, and are, working to improve contributors' experiences with talk pages. This particular project is better off for their existence. Some of the projects the team continues to learn from are listed below.
If there is a project and or resource you think we should be aware of, please say something on the talk page.
Talk page projects:
- Convenient Discussions
- Discussion tools in the past
- Moderated Testing, November 2014: talk pages and Flow
- Flow satisfaction survey
- Reply-link
- Talk pages consultation
FAQ
When will the new version of talk pages be released?
There will not be a "new version" of talk pages that will get released all at once. Instead, this project will be made up of a series of incremental improvements that will be released over time.
How are talk pages going to change?
- Some features may involve introducing new wikitext. Although, any changes to wikitext will be limited to those that enable new features that benefit contributors. Features like replying to specific comments or watchlisting particular discussions.
- Potentially changing where the "Discussion" tab exists on the page
- Potentially changing where metadata – that currently exists atop some talk pages – is presented
Note: the list above is not exhaustive and will likely change as the project progresses.
How long is this project likely to last?
1–2 years.
