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这篇文章主要讨论的是,编辑团队讨论页做出了怎样的改进。

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To follow how this project is developing, the team recommends visiting and/or adding the Talk pages project/Updates page to your watchlist. If you would like to be invited to conversations about specific topics, please add your name to the "Notification list" here: Talk pages project/Participate

In this section, we list the projects actively being worked on and where and how they have currently been deployed.

Each project is an effort to improve contributors' experiences communicating productively on Wikipedia using talk pages.

Projects

Deployment status

Wiki Reply tool New discussion tool User signature requirements
阿姆哈拉语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature Implemented for new signatures
阿拉伯语维基百科 Opt-out user preference " "
亚美尼亚语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
阿萨姆语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
巴斯克语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
博杰普尔语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
缅甸语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
加泰罗尼亚语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
中库尔德语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
中文维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
捷克语维基百科 Opt-out user preference " "
荷兰语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
法语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
格鲁吉亚语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
希伯来语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
印地语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
匈牙利语维基百科 Opt-out user preference " "
冰岛语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
意大利语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
日文维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
韩文维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
立陶宛语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
迈蒂利语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
马拉地语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
Mtton Wikipedia Opt-in Beta Feature " "
尼泊尔语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
书面挪威语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
N'Ko Wikipedia Opt-in Beta Feature " "
波兰语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
葡萄牙语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
旁遮普语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
波斯语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
桑塔利语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
塞尔维亚语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
僧伽罗语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
西班牙语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
瑞典语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
泰米尔语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
土耳其语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
乌克兰语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
越南语维基百科 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
英语维基学院 Opt-in Beta Feature " "
MediaWiki.org Opt-in Beta Feature " "
Meta-Wiki Opt-in Beta Feature " "
The Arabic, Dutch, French and Hungarian Wikipedias are participating in this project as "partner wikis". This means new communication tools for talk pages will be deployed to these wikis first so we can work together to refine them. If you would like to see these new tools deployed to your wiki, please leave a message on the talk page.

Open questions

This section contains questions the team could use your help trying to answer.

Starting a new discussion: Are there aspects about starting new conversation threads you find take a lot of effort? Are there you like? Please post a link or describe your experience here:

Share a story about a new discussion

How you can help

If questions like the examples given in this section are interesting to you, please add your name to “Participate” subpage.

The ~40 people who already have, are contributing their expertise and experiences to ensure the new tools we develop as part of this project are valuable and useful to the editors who depend on talk pages to communicate, now and in the future.

  • Talk page experience - "When you think about your experiences using talk pages, are there particular memories that stand out to you?"
  • Design feedback - Here are mockups of Version 2.0 of the new Reply tool, what aspects of the design do you think could be made more clear?
  • Wiki expertise - "What do you think needs to be considered before the new Reply tool is enabled on pages outside talk namespaces?"

更新

The best way to stay up to date about the project is by adding the “Updates” subpage to your watch list. The team will use this page to share information about new feature development, deployment plans and questions the team would value your input on.

Updates are typically posted every month. You can read the latest project update here: 2020年9月4日(2020-09-04) .

The other two places you might consider checking for updates are:

Objectives

Wikipedia depends on contributors collaborating, and communication is an important part of the collaborative process.

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Trouble is, communicating on Wikipedia happens on talk pages which can be challenging for contributors across experience levels to use.

Contributors with more experience report being slowed down by having to do something manual in order for other contributors "to know who posted what, and when, so they can follow the thread of a conversation, post on a user talk page if appropriate, and even just know whether a posting is recent enough to be worth responding to."

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Newer contributors on the other hand, find basic tasks, like replying to a comment, confusing. In some instances, these contributors even confuse talk pages for article pages.[3]

The Editing Team has two key objectives with this project. To create tools that:

  1. Make it more intuitive for newcomers to communicate with others so they can grow into productive contributors.[4]
  2. Give experienced contributors more leverage to communicate and coordinate their wiki work with others.

This project is an outcome of the 2019 Talk Pages Consultation, a 5-month long effort that brought volunteers on 20 wikis, across 15 languages and four projects (Wikipedia, Commons, Wikidata and Wiktionary) together with members of the Wikimedia Foundation to share their experiences with existing wiki communication tools and to help develop improvements to them.

The Talk pages project supports the Wikimedia Movement's Medium Term Plan. Specifically, the plan's Thriving Movement priority area which strives to "welcome and support newcomers." We think newer contributors learning and progressing depends on their ability to communicate with more experienced contributors, and by extension, to use talk pages intuitively.[4]

Glossary

The talk pages project glossary is intended to help us all communicate about talk pages more effectively by making sure we have a shared understanding about the words we use in our discussions and documentation throughout the project.

参考资料

Many projects have, and are, working to improve contributors' experiences with talk pages. This particular project is better off for their existence. Some of the projects the team continues to learn from are listed below.

If there is a project and or resource you think we should be aware of, please say something on the talk page.

Talk page projects:

常见问题

When will the new version of talk pages be released?

There will not be a "new version" of talk pages that will get released all at once. Instead, this project will be made up of a series of incremental improvements that will be released over time.

How are talk pages going to change?

  • Some features may involve introducing new wikitext.

Although, any changes to wikitext will be limited to those that enable new features that benefit contributors. Features like replying to specific comments or watchlisting particular discussions.

  • Potentially changing where the "Discussion" tab exists on the page
  • Potentially changing where metadata – that currently exists atop some talk pages – is presented
The list above is not exhaustive and will likely change as the project progresses.

How long is this project likely to last?

1–2 years.

Related pages

  • Partner wiki discussions: