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Configuring default welcome message

4 (talkcontribs)

Is it possible to configure the default welcome message Echo gives you? Currently it always says "Welcome to {{{SITENAME}}}, ‪{{{NAME}}}! We're glad you're here." I'd like to be able to change it to include a link to the rules and the f.a.q. The ideal way to do this would probably be to use something like Extension:HAWelcome or Extension:NewUserMessage but since I'm using Structured Discussions/Flow neither of those work.

I've been trying to find the PHP file that generates the message to edit it directly, but no luck yet

Xaosflux (talkcontribs)

You should be able to localize that in MediaWiki:Notification-header-welcome (talkcontribs)

I'll test that out! Thanks for the reply. (talkcontribs)

It worked, thank you!! Maybe this should be mentioned on Extension:Echo because it seems like it's something people would want to configure and I'm not seeing it there.

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Enabling Notification For All Changes

Jabowery (talkcontribs)

I've googled "all changes" "any changes", "all modifications", etc. in the context of Mediawiki notifications and come up with nothing -- not even perennial requests -- for my use case:

There is an old wiki that is not undergoing much of any activity that I'm trying to revive in the manner of a wiki project or wiki task force and one of the best ways to keeping the team active would be for everyone on the team to be notified of everything that is happening to the wiki.

This seems like an obvious feature but I can't find how to enable notification for all changes to the wiki.

Wikinaut (talkcontribs)

As an ad-hoc solution: you can(have to) add all pages to your watchlist.

Wikinaut (talkcontribs)

It would be possible, yes, but currently there is no option for enabling such a feature.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Yes, watchlist is your best option. You can force email notifications for watchlist moves and add every page to the watchlist, be be cautious of a spam effect!

Another solution is to use Extension:Newsletter send regular updates to the participants. That's a way to surface edits, but also a very good opportunity to built a community by having highlights on cool projects, or sharing best practices.

Tim Smith (talkcontribs)
Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I don't know about that extension. I see it is tagged as unmaintained, so using it may not be the best idea.

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Janezdrilc (talkcontribs)

Two icons of bell and "something" seem a little bit confusing to me. I never know what is behind one or another when "ringing". In my eyes it actually doesn't matter what kind of message is about to come. So, I would rather keep just a bell. Could be red colored when it's about user page message or someone mentioning me, and blue colored when it's about a thank or my mentioning of somebody.

One another thing: In the Special:Notifications there could be an option for selecting types of messages to show: user talk notices, mentions of me, mentions by me, thanks ...

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

The first notification badge (red, "alerts", the bell) contains most important notification types: new messages on your talk page, mentions, etc. The second notification badge (blue, "notices", the tray) contains less important notifications: pages likes, message on other talk pages, etc. All kind of notifications are documented here.

I've created a feature ticket for your idea of having filters on Special:Notifications.

Janezdrilc (talkcontribs)

Thanks for answer and a ticket.

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This edit hasn't triggered a notification

Micru (talkcontribs)
Ymblanter (talkcontribs)

It is ok. You only get notified if the user signs at the same time they ping you.

Truthseeker40 (talkcontribs)

Perhaps this is the best place to ask a question about notifications. I have set up notifications for 4 models, and use the same email address for notifications. So far, this has not worked at all. I have checked my email junk and spam folders, and there is nothing found. Any suggestions would help!

Micru (talkcontribs)

Ah, ok. Thanks for the clarification :)

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Gryllida (talkcontribs)

At some wikis editors may wish to form a group, such as a wikiproject. Membership is maintained in two ways: by listing members on a wiki page by hand, and by adding a 'I am a member of wikiproject Foo' userbox on a user page which adds the user to the appropriate category.

Is it possible to make it so that pinging at wikiproject page via Echo results into a notification being delivered to all its members? Each user would be able view their wikiproject membership in the Notifications tab in their preferences and untick WikiProjects whose notifications they do not wish to receive?

(I can see this being abused, but abusers would need to be treated in the same manner as if they were pasting a long number of usernames into wiki page, so I don't think this tool would actively open an abuse vector.)

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

There is no group mention system in Notifications. That's an idea to consider and I've documented it on Phabricator.

It is a real need. I've seen a wikiproject notification system on French Wikipedia, where you can mention a project. You add a template and that template is listed in a category. You need to watch that category's activity, which is... another problem. :) That's more a substitute than a real notification system.

I think your idea would be a good candidate for the next Community Whishlist survey.

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Feature request: API to add a notification?

Pcj (talkcontribs)

Is there anyway an action can be added to the API to allow notifications to be generated by e.g., gadgets? Or is this possible another way already?

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PerfektesChaos (talkcontribs)

I am afraid not.

I recall discussions on this issue, and the result has been to disallow procedural issueing of notifications to avoid mass misuse and bothering users and projects. Even more, there is no arbitrary message text permitted (which could be a hidden drug or weapon deal) communicated between two users, or offensive things which cannot be proved by the victim.

Therefore only standard situations like mentioning or thanking for an edit can trigger a notification, and the generated text is defined by the circumstances.

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Aschroet (talkcontribs)

Hi all, am i right that currently MW does not support that notifications about changes at the watchlisted articles cannot be sent by HTML mail since (1) the MW core does not support that, (2) the Echo extensions does not cover this kind of events and (3) there is no extension does that for me?

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)


I receive my watchlist notifications by HTML emails. That's a core feature, not an Echo one.

Aschroet (talkcontribs)

@Trizek (WMF), merci for you answer. I also see those mail coming from Commons, WP etc. but on my local installation i don't. And actually also in the code i do not find where e. g. the HTML-Links to URLs (<a>...</a>) are created. The i18n files only contain plain text.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I'll forward your questions to the developers. :)

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Roan Kattouw (WMF) (talkcontribs)

HTML email is disabled by default, you have to enable it in your configuration with $wgAllowHTMLEmail = true;

Aschroet (talkcontribs)
Roan Kattouw (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hmm, you're right. I just looked and watchlist emails coming from Wikipedia don't even use HTML email, so I think that means it's probably not available/implemented anywhere. I'm not aware of an extension that would do this for you.

Jdforrester (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Fixing this (by merging Notifications into core, probably) is tracked as Task 15303.

Aschroet (talkcontribs)

@Roan Kattouw (WMF), when i look at my mails from Wikipedia or Commons then they contain clickable links. Or is that added by the Mail client on my phone? Anyway, i wonder why this is not implemented. Everyone expects to be able to click a link that is coming via mail.

@Trizek (WMF), would be helpful to bring light into the darkness.

Roan Kattouw (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Yes, the clickable links are added by your mail client. I just looked at the raw version of a watchlist email I received recently, and it's plain text, no HTML.

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Enterprisey (talkcontribs)

The API documentation (Notifications/API) claims I can pass in a value of "index" for the "notprop" parameter, but when I try, it says that "index" is an invalid value. Is the documentation wrong, or has the feature been removed, or what?

Legoktm (talkcontribs)

The documentation is outdated, "index" was removed. What are you trying to do? There should be a functional equivalent :)

Enterprisey (talkcontribs)

Oh, good to know! I was trying to get the sentence-long summary for each notification, like ["Example left a message on your talk page", "Example2 thanked you for your edit on SomePage"], and nothing else. I thought notprop=list returned output that was too verbose, but I can parse it if it turns out there isn't a better way.

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Clear all read notifications from the pane

Jmorgan (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Now that we have a much-improved Special:Notifications page where we can go to view historical notifications, can we get a button to "clear all read notifications" from the Notifications Pane? I currently have a month's worth of read Flow notifications in my pane, and it makes for a pretty long list—currently about 3x the height of my browser window. I don't need these anymore; if I want to see who pinged me three weeks ago, I can go to the Notifications page.

Quiddity (WMF) (talkcontribs)

The panel(s) always list a maximum of 25 notifications (including various combinations of bundled, read, and unread, but prioritizing unread).

If I understand correctly, you want a way to remove all read notifications from the panel(s), effectively like an email client's "archive" functionality.

That seems like a reasonable feature-request, though the required UI would add additional complexity, which might be considered undesirable. I suggest you file it as a phab task, but I would guess it would be triaged as lowest priority for staff-development time. HTH.

Jmorgan (WMF) (talkcontribs)
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Why am I not getting notifications for watchlist changes?

Thennicke (talkcontribs)

Hello all,

I've got nearly everything ticked in my Commons notifications preferences and yet I'm not receiving notifications when pages in my Commons watchlist are changed - I have to go to the watchlist itself and look there at what has been happening. Why is this? I'd rather get a notification when things change on my watchlist.

Thank you in advance :)

Matěj Suchánek (talkcontribs)

Notifications are a complement to the watchlist, they do not replace it but enhance.

Thennicke (talkcontribs)

Thanks. Well that's rather unfortunate. I really think it would make me a lot more productive on-wiki if I could just have that as an option. I regularly forget to check my watchlist and miss things. And with watchlist filters activated, it's not as though I'd be spammed with unimportant notifications.

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