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HTTPS links not rendering

Can anybody think of a reason why HTTPS links would not be rendered as links? All instances of HTTPS links across my entire wiki (including pages in the Special namespace [i.e. Special:Version]) are rendered as if surrounded by <nowiki> tags.

Ex.)

    HTTP renders properly
    FTP renders properly
    [https://test HTTPS renders exactly like this]
132.3.45.7817:26, 9 April 2014

Add this to your LocalSettings.php:

$wgUrlProtocols[] = 'https';
Tim (SVG)19:55, 9 April 2014

I've added the line -- no change.

I was under the impression that HTTPS was a supported URL protocol by default.

Any other ideas?

132.3.45.8220:04, 9 April 2014
 
 

Problem with formating when trasfering text/html formated site to Mediawiki formated site.

Hi,

I have two wiki sites and woud like to transfer articles from old one to new. Then appears problem with formatink.

Old page content type: content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"

New page content type: content="MediaWiki 1.19.5-1"

And this is code of my article:

Outside quote

quoted black word grey word grey word grey word black word grey word

On old site article looks: http://s23.postimg.org/t10ogt3pn/wiki1.png

And on new: http://s23.postimg.org/t10ogt3pn/wiki1.png

So, my questioon: It's there a easy options for quoting and shadowing words?

Gray13:27, 7 April 2014

Updating Picture

I am trying to upload a current picture and Wikipedia says I don't have the authority to do that. How do I get the authority?

Rsieron (talk)21:38, 25 March 2014

You need to become autoconfirmed first. That means you need at least 10 edits and 4 days of account age.

Note: in the future, questions about Wikipedia should be directed to w:en:Wikipedia:Help desk. Thanks.

Jasper Deng (talk)04:16, 26 March 2014
 

Is there a Chinese version of Media Wiki?

Hello,

I understand I can type posts in Chinese however all the management controls and buttons etc are still in English. Is there a Chinese version of MediaWiki or a chinese friendly other wiki?

101.80.237.1406:22, 18 March 2013

Check the footer of the homepage. There is MediaWiki/zh and more.

Qgil (talk)06:48, 18 March 2013
 

Set interface language in your Preferences.

wargo (talk)16:53, 12 October 2013
 
 

Main Page/pt-br update

Can anyone update the Brazillian Portuguese Main Page template? I'll do the necessary translations.

Fabiano (Fabsouza1) (talk)14:07, 27 February 2014

I have a question regarding wikipedia itself and languages

Edited by another user.
Last edit: 18:11, 12 October 2013

Dear all,

I just got an sudden thought, that 'Why do we need wikipedia in all languages, instead we have a single pool of all the articles, from all the languages, and just translate them to the requested language.

benefits:

  1. all the languages will have the all the articles.
  2. less maintance of articles.

needed:

  1. a better software to translate the articles -> not exist now, but can be built if open source contibuters wish to have.
  2. better community -> which already exist.

It's a thought, may be someone have come across such idea's earlier, or it have some practical complications. Let the community to think on it.

I really feel sorry for my poor english. I tried on my best to write it right. Thank you all!

Ganeshtheone (talk)20:01, 17 July 2012

Developing high quality, universal language (machine) translation is beyond the scope of Wikipedia. (At this point in time, it seems to be beyond the scope of anyone, anywhere!) In fact, sufficiently accurate, nuanced language translation between any two languages is not yet at the level of accuracy needed for users of encyclopedic content.

Also, the difference between the various language versions of Wikipedia is greater than the language difference. I don't know how to articulate what this difference is, but I have observed it. The current approach seems to be rather effective.

Summary[edit | edit source]

Readers can choose to use machine language translation as needed. For now, this seems the more prudent arrangement i.e. to have machine language translation as an option, a helpful alternative, rather than the default.

FeralOink (talk)05:58, 17 August 2012
 

Why write "I have a question?" Why not write "My question is this?"

174.22.202.5821:07, 7 January 2014
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Because this is Wikipedia, not Stack Overflow, nor Quora?

Because we need more machine translation?

Tiny joke.

I concur with Qgil, that any further discussion of this topic should be continued on MetaWikimedia.org.

FeralOink (talk)11:20, 24 February 2014
 

Eek, that is thumbnail sized! I'm sorry.

FeralOink (talk)11:20, 24 February 2014
 

I had already proposed a similar sistem for Wikivoyage: archived discussion.

Ricordisamoa17:11, 10 January 2014
 

This topic (discussed several times over the years) belongs to http://meta.wikimedia.org and not mediawiki.org. Please continue the discussion there, if you wish.

Qgil (talk)23:23, 10 January 2014
 

Main Page template/pt-br

I'm having a problem when searching for a page to translate (Template:Main page/sitelink5/pt-br). The current search engine (Cirrus) does not offer the option to create non-existent pages. Can anyone help me?

Fabiano (Fabsouza1) (talk)16:08, 15 February 2014

Direct link for you ;) In my opinion, MainPage should be migrate into new translation system (through Translate Extension).

Kaganer (talk)19:38, 16 February 2014

Yes, I think so. This would greatly facilitate the work of translation.

Fabiano (Fabsouza1) (talk)20:14, 16 February 2014
 

fwiw we have a good chance to come up with a sane approach for localization of the homepage as part of MediaWiki/Homepage_redesign.

Qgil (talk)22:21, 18 February 2014
 
 

Release date of version 1.21.5

The section Current version states that version 1.21.5 was published on 14th November 2013, but the News section states that it was released on 28th January 2014. Maybe someone could correct it.

Marc-André Aßbrock (talk)08:45, 31 January 2014

Thank you, it is fixed now.

Qgil (talk)21:20, 5 February 2014
 

Forcing HTTPS

Damn you whoever thought enforcing HTTPS was a really wonderful move. At least do it properly. Here on mediawiki.org I can't disable HTTPS. The related checkbox is always checked even tho the preferences page says "You preferences are saved". Ironically Bugzilla is all on HTTPS so I can't report it over here. F**k.

KPu3uC B Poccuu (talk)13:55, 3 February 2014

Delete the cookies that say ForceHTTPS in your browser. However you shouldn't be logged into any wiki that has SSL enabled. Cussing won't help either, by the way.

Jasper Deng (talk)23:39, 3 February 2014

I don't have those cookies.

KPu3uC B Poccuu (talk)00:59, 4 February 2014

should be lower case forceHTTPS, sorry.

But in any case, I've had that problem before too. You have to relogin and when logging in, not from HTTPS.

Jasper Deng (talk)02:14, 4 February 2014
 
 
 

The file you submitted was empty error in MsUpload extension

A thread, Thread:Talk:MediaWiki/The file you submitted was empty error in MsUpload extension, was moved from here to Project:Support desk. This move was made by Qgil (talk | contribs) on 17 January 2014 at 20:56.

mediawiki.org homepage redesign

Just a heads up about this project: MediaWiki/Homepage redesign. Check the design document and join the discussion.

Qgil (talk)19:55, 14 January 2014

Can I find any extensions to create a new tab to transfer the traditional Chinese to simpified Chinese ?

A thread, Thread:Talk:MediaWiki/Can I find any extensions to create a new tab to transfer the traditional Chinese to simpified Chinese ?, was moved from here to Project:Support desk. This move was made by Qgil (talk | contribs) on 14 January 2014 at 19:39.

Syncing "News" block with our social media?

Edited by author.
Last edit: 23:21, 7 January 2013

I edited the Subject of this thread because the original proposal has changed--Qgil

The "New opportunities" block is between empty and outdated. Maintaining it properly takes time and dedication. In the meantime we have sorted out our social media channels, and there are updates almost every day. So I was wondering... could we make a change, and get the feed of the @MediaWiki identi.ca timeline automatically syndicated?

The block could be called "Community" or "Social media" and the four services currently supported and this page could be linked from there.

One thing is whether you like the idea and another point is how this should be implemented. Please discuss.

Qgil (talk)00:03, 5 January 2013

The New opportunities block has been updated and looks good. Thank you!

This proposal makes still sense for the News block. It is only listing releases, when the last ones are alredy listed in their own block. What do you think?

If the automated RSS thing is a problem then I could start updating those news manually and see how does it look like, but before doing that I'd welcome more opinions.

Qgil (talk)18:56, 6 January 2013

Done. I'm not fully convinced about this format giving so much relevance to the date but I wasn't able to come up with better alternatives. It's good enough for now.

Qgil (talk)06:05, 11 January 2013
 
Edited by 3 users.
Last edit: 06:47, 12 December 2013

To give you an idea, the news we would have published since Jan 1 could have been:

Qgil (talk)19:52, 7 January 2013
Edited by 0 users.
Last edit: 17:40, 9 January 2013

Tomorrow I will update Template:MediaWiki News and therefore the mediawiki.org homepage with the list of news above - unless someone stops me with a good reason.

Qgil (talk)17:40, 9 January 2013

More frequent manual updates are a great idea, but there are some considerations to be thought through if you decide to automate this.

Primarily, you'll need to consider i18n. Presumably the news feed is available only in English? If so, will we still be able to offer translated versions of the feed and how do you think that could be managed? Some languages are actively translating the news feed (Template:MediaWiki News/fr for example) so thought should be given to how this would work if the feed was automated. Also, and regardless of whether it is manual or automatic, we need to consider what impact a large increase in frequency will have on the translating process. If the translations can't keep up and things are too often out-of-sync, it may be better for non-English pages to have a current feed in English than an out-of-date feed in the correct language, but this is something that should be discussed with the users of those other languages. I would recommend contacting any active translators to gauge their opinion beforehand.

Also, consideration should be given to what happens to the old content of that template (which shouldn't simply be lost, imho), and in particular the impact it will have on News which also transcludes it (as well as other, less prominent transclusions, such as Developer hub/ru). If you're updating it manually, you should be moving old news into the 'Older news' section once you no-longer want it on the home-page, but how will it work if this is a live feed?

Just some things to consider before diving in - I am all for improving the timeliness and variety of our news feed!

HappyDog (talk)23:52, 9 January 2013
Edited by author.
Last edit: 06:06, 10 January 2013

Ah, good points. We can forget about the implications of automation for now since I have no idea how this would work, and nobody else is interested so far. Not a big deal, as it takes me an extra minute to include the News template in the round.

As for translations... I guess translators can just decide? They might even start thinking about adding news relevant in their own languages.

I'm for starting in English and see how translators react. The worst that could happen is that they keep translating only when a new MediaWiki release comes = no loss. I have left a notice at the template's discussion page that I guess translators are watching.

Qgil (talk)00:19, 10 January 2013

Sounds reasonable.

HappyDog (talk)00:49, 10 January 2013
 
 

Thank you for clarifying the homepage. The setup is far better than it was before. More frequent updates would be appreciated, since many of the pages are difficult to find, assuming one even knows they exist.

Frug (talk)16:23, 11 January 2013
 
 
 

China's Jobs?

I'm doing a project on China for my library and I'm wondering what to type in order to get the best info. I have pretty much completed the research part I just need to know what kinds of jobs there are. I can't seem to find anything useful.

Rainicornlove23:48, 27 January 2012

The project is due Feb 10 so I really need to get it done!

Please reply. Thanks!

Rainicornlove23:59, 27 January 2012

Hi, you are on the wrong wiki: Try to ask over there. Cheers

[[kgh]]00:54, 28 January 2012
 
 

Bugs and Glitches

A thread, Thread:Talk:MediaWiki/Bugs and Glitches, was moved from here to Project:Support desk. This move was made by Qgil (talk | contribs) on 13 December 2013 at 23:38.

Why must the 1.22.0 access the mysql through the /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock?

A thread, Thread:Talk:MediaWiki/Why must the 1.22.0 access the mysql through the /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock?, was moved from here to Project:Support desk. This move was made by Qgil (talk | contribs) on 13 December 2013 at 23:31.

Mediawiki WYSIWYG Skin IE9 problem

hey,


ive got a little Problem :D.


Quick Infos: Mediawiki 1.17 WYSIWYG Extension


Everything works great with FF and IE10 - but there are many users with IE9.


1. We use Monobook as skin. When i try to open the editor the following happens:
http://s7.directupload.net/images/131212/idkg5no4.jpg

(which means "not enough storage") And the editor doesnt appear


2. I googled and found some links:

http://krasimirtsonev.com/blog/article/CKEditor-Not-enough-storage-is-available-to-complete-this-operation

He says thats cause IE can only do 31 times "createStyleSheet" and offers a workaround.

3. If i change the line in document.js in WYSIWYG\ckeditor\_source\core\dom

from

appendStyleSheet : function( cssFileUrl )

{
if ( this.$.createStyleSheet )
this.$.createStyleSheet( cssFileUrl );
else
{
var link = new CKEDITOR.dom.element( 'link' );
link.setAttributes(
{ rel :'stylesheet',
type : 'text/css',
href : cssFileUrl
});

this.getHead().append( link );
}


to
appendStyleSheet : function( cssFileUrl )
{
if ( false )
this.$.createStyleSheet( cssFileUrl );
else
{
var link = new CKEDITOR.dom.element( 'link' );
link.setAttributes(
{
rel :'stylesheet',
type : 'text/css',
href : cssFileUrl
});

this.getHead().append( link );
}

it looks like this:


http://s7.directupload.net/images/131212/b2hn5a97.jpg

Doesnt work too :D. But i have no idea what the else-block exactly do and about the whole thing with php, js and css :D


4. I started with SMW+ (Datawiki), and there is a default skin "ontoskin3". With them everythin is cool - so i think this skin "fixes" the createstylesheet problems. But i cant figure out how - i analyzed the skins, and theyre very different - and im a nub in javascript and css.


I would be very very appreciated if someone could help me out here - i spend a lot of hours and im not able to get it working :D:

My Skin Direcory can be downloaded here: http://uploadboy.com/h12tvnuu6jn5.html


Regards,

194.156.246.22614:47, 12 December 2013

Mediawiki WYSIWYG Skin IE9 problem

hey,


ive got a little Problem :D.


Quick Infos: Mediawiki 1.17 WYSIWYG Extension


Everything works great with FF and IE10 - but there are many users with IE9.


1. We use Monobook as skin. When i try to open the editor the following happens:
http://s7.directupload.net/images/131212/idkg5no4.jpg

(which means "not enough storage") And the editor doesnt appear


2. I googled and found some links:

http://krasimirtsonev.com/blog/article/CKEditor-Not-enough-storage-is-available-to-complete-this-operation

He says thats cause IE can only do 31 times "createStyleSheet" and offers a workaround.

3. If i change the line in document.js in WYSIWYG\ckeditor\_source\core\dom

from

appendStyleSheet : function( cssFileUrl )

{
if ( this.$.createStyleSheet )
this.$.createStyleSheet( cssFileUrl );
else
{
var link = new CKEDITOR.dom.element( 'link' );
link.setAttributes(
{ rel :'stylesheet',
type : 'text/css',
href : cssFileUrl
});

this.getHead().append( link );
}


to
appendStyleSheet : function( cssFileUrl )
{
if ( false )
this.$.createStyleSheet( cssFileUrl );
else
{
var link = new CKEDITOR.dom.element( 'link' );
link.setAttributes(
{
rel :'stylesheet',
type : 'text/css',
href : cssFileUrl
});

this.getHead().append( link );
}

it looks like this:


http://s7.directupload.net/images/131212/b2hn5a97.jpg

Doesnt work too :D. But i have no idea what the else-block exactly do and about the whole thing with php, js and css :D


4. I started with SMW+ (Datawiki), and there is a default skin "ontoskin3". With them everythin is cool - so i think this skin "fixes" the createstylesheet problems. But i cant figure out how - i analyzed the skins, and theyre very different - and im a nub in javascript and css.


I would be very very appreciated if someone could help me out here - i spend a lot of hours and im not able to get it working :D:

My Skin Direcory can be downloaded here: http://uploadboy.com/h12tvnuu6jn5.html


Regards,

194.156.246.22614:47, 12 December 2013

Wrong date in Current version section: 1.20.8 – 2013-09-03

It seems the date has not been updated.

Aviertje (talk)18:46, 3 December 2013
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