Project talk:Help

About this board

Please do not post support questions here.

Instead, use one of these channels:

Further options for contacting appropriate people can be found at Communication .

Previous discussion was archived at Project talk:Help/Archive 1 on 23 January 2019.

Fr-wiki not displaying interlanguage links for WP space

8
Mathglot (talkcontribs)

Not sure if this is a "feature" (I hope not!) or a bug, but fr-wiki is not displaying interlanguage links for project space. To demonstrate the problem:

  1. Start at this Afd at en-wiki
    • notice the two interlanguage links in the sidebar for "Español" and "Français".
    • Click the Spanish link:
  2. This brings you to this Spanish Afd, as expected.
    • notice the two interlanguage links in the sidebar for "English" and "Français".
    • Click the French link.
  3. This brings you to this French Afd, as expected.
    • notice that there is no language sidebar for French. This is expected for French Wikipedia.
    • Notice that the vector-language-sidebar-alert (message notifying users that the language links have been moved top right) is missing. This is unexpected for fr-wiki.
    • Notice that to the right of the title at page top, there is no language list dropdown. This is unexpected for fr-wiki.

It appears that you cannot navigate from the French Afd to either of the other two via interlanguage links, although you can do so, from the English and Spanish pages. What's going on?

AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hi, please see the sidebar. Thanks!

Mathglot (talkcontribs)

AKlapper (WMF) What sidebar? The sidebar on this page? Do you mean the sidebar at the French Afd? There is nothing there of interest. Here is the entire sidebar on the French page, top to bottom:

Débuter sur Wikipédia
Aide
Communauté
Modifications récentes
Faire un don

Pages liées
Suivi des pages liées
Téléverser un fichier
Pages spéciales
Lien permanent
Informations sur la page

Créer un livre
Télécharger comme PDF
Version imprimable

RobinHood70 (talkcontribs)

The French language link is pointing to a Talk page (Discussion:) rather than an article page. I'm guessing that's the cause of the issue.

Mathglot (talkcontribs)

That's a good conjecture, I wonder if it accounts for it. Does this mean that interlanguage links are displayed *neither* in the language sidebar, *nor* in the top-right drop down on French Wikipedia, if the namespaces don't match? If someone bothers to add the link to a different namespace on purpose, why shouldn't they be linked? (Assuming the conjecture is correct.)

I tried adding two manual interwikis to the French page, pointing to the Spanish and English ones, but even that will not place language links on the page. From where I sit, it's a bug not to have the interwikis specified by Wikidata appear on the French page, and it's another bug to suppress manual interwikis edited directly onto the page.

Mathglot (talkcontribs)

I think you must be right, because I added manual interwikis for en-wiki and es-wiki to the (non-existent) project page on fr-wiki, and it shows the proper interlanguage links in preview mode. (Interestingly, it shows them in the left sidebar, and *not* in the top-right dropdown.)

Mathglot (talkcontribs)

I tried a hack, by creating the French project page as a redirect to the Talk page, and relinked wikidata to point to the Project page instead. This doesn't seem to have worked, though, because the sidebar links at en-wiki and es-wiki still point to the French talk space page, so maybe there's a lag before Wikidata is propagated, or maybe I missed a purge, or maybe it follows the redirect correctly, but then suppresses the links as before, so we're no better after the hack, than before it.


Update: the link is now to the article space subpage on fr-wiki, which *does* have interlang links now to es and en-wikis; however the subpage redirects to the Afd (in Talk space) which doesn't display the interlang links, so from the PoV of an fr-wiki user, we're no better off than before, because they still are unaware that there arep wikidata links to es and en-wiki.

RobinHood70 (talkcontribs)

The only other solution that I can think of, which is also a hack, is to make Jardin botanique alpin Daniella/Admissibilité a soft redirect. Then the interlanguage links would work correctly on that page, but people would have to click through to get to the actual Afd page.

Reply to "Fr-wiki not displaying interlanguage links for WP space"
BlackBeast (talkcontribs)

Hello, I started to translate Extension:SpamBlacklist/es, but some parts can't be translated to Spanish, because some sections are not able to translate with the translate extension. Can anyone add those sections? Thanks a lot

Mainframe98 (talkcontribs)

I've added more translation units to the page, which should allow you to translate more.

BlackBeast (talkcontribs)

Thank you so much

Summary last edited by Mainframe98 17:37, 22 June 2021 10 months ago

There is Project:Village pump. For other requests, use Project:Requests.

Adamw (talkcontribs)

Friends, I'm wondering if mediawiki.org has the equivalent of en:Wikipedia:Village pump? If not, maybe we should mention that fact on the community portal, and suggest a single best point of entry for new discussions?

MarkAHershberger (talkcontribs)

What sort of discussions are you talking about? I think you'll find that the Support Desk is pretty lively and Current issues gets a fair amount of traffic, but they may not be what you want.

94rain (talkcontribs)
This post was hidden by Hasley (history)
أحمد (talkcontribs)

So where can one propose a tidying/organisation project?

Downloading MediaWiki - is it right for my uses?

2
Marshallsumter (talkcontribs)

I have an iMac that runs macOS Mojave Version 10.14.6 with the 3 GHz Intel Core i5 Processor, 8 GB 2667 MHz DDR4 Memory and Radeon Pro 560X 4 GB Graphics. I've really enjoyed the way MediaWiki presents articles and resources on the various Wikimedia Foundation projects. So, I'd like to find out if I can run MediaWiki on my computer, prepare resources in the course of my research and upload them to one or more of the projects I currently contribute to when it's appropriate to put them into the Public Domain. Currently, I contribute primarily to Wikiversity but have run into a political problem that I cannot solve so I'd like to try preparing resources from home. Can you help?

Pppery (talkcontribs)

Where is the HELP and FAQ for end-user like me ?

5
HaussmannSaintLazare (talkcontribs)

I am a end-user of jawikipedia and not a user who want to install MedaiWiki.

There are Help and FAQ in this site.

But they are both for users who want to install MediaWiki and I cannot found HELP and FAQ for me.

The first I want to do is to change my talk page user interface as normal wikipedia style.

(Because this user interface is not familiar to me and is not convinient.)

Please teach me where I can find the answer.

Thank you !!!

19:46, 19 May 2020


APaskulin (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hi @HaussmannSaintLazare,

The help pages are written for end-users of MediaWiki. You can find information about editing and formatting there. Hope this helps!

HaussmannSaintLazare (talkcontribs)

Hello APaskulin (WMF) !!!

Thank you for your reply.

Certainly, somewhere in Project:Help there seems to be some information for end-users like me.

However, the link is not working well and it is very hard to find such information.

I'll ask you how to use this page, so please answer.

I am a Japanese speaker.

So the Help page I use is Project:Help/ja.

However, when I click the link on this page, it jump to the English page instead of the Japanese page.

For example, clicking the "MediaWiki ハンドブック" near the beginning jumps to Help:Contents instead of the Japanese document Help:Contents/ja.

Almost the same phebomena applies to other links. So please tell me how to make it jump to the Japanese page.

Thank you !!!

APaskulin (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hi @HaussmannSaintLazare,

I recommend changing the language in your user preferences (Special:Preferences). This should open links in the Japanese version by default.

In the case of MediaWiki ハンドブック, since that page in on a different wiki (meta.wikimedia.org), you'll need to change your language preferences on meta.wikimedia.org (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences) in order for pages on that wiki to open the Japanese version by default.

I hope this helps!

AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)

There is a link on this very page (and every page) in the sidebar. The link is called "User help".

Reply to "Where is the HELP and FAQ for end-user like me ?"
There are no older topics