User talk:Dereckson

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Hello, and welcome on my MediaWiki talk page.

Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Dereckson/Archive 1 on 2016-06-10.

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How we will see unregistered users

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MediaWiki message delivery (talkcontribs)

Hi!

You get this message because you are an admin on a Wikimedia wiki.

When someone edits a Wikimedia wiki without being logged in today, we show their IP address. As you may already know, we will not be able to do this in the future. This is a decision by the Wikimedia Foundation Legal department, because norms and regulations for privacy online have changed.

Instead of the IP we will show a masked identity. You as an admin will still be able to access the IP. There will also be a new user right for those who need to see the full IPs of unregistered users to fight vandalism, harassment and spam without being admins. Patrollers will also see part of the IP even without this user right. We are also working on better tools to help.

If you have not seen it before, you can read more on Meta. If you want to make sure you don’t miss technical changes on the Wikimedia wikis, you can subscribe to the weekly technical newsletter.

We have two suggested ways this identity could work. We would appreciate your feedback on which way you think would work best for you and your wiki, now and in the future. You can let us know on the talk page. You can write in your language. The suggestions were posted in October and we will decide after 17 January.

Thank you. /Johan (WMF)

18:17, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Reply to "How we will see unregistered users"
SM7 (talkcontribs)

Hello, Would you like to look into this issue. We (hindi users) are not familiar with such things and we don't know many people at Phab who can help us.

Reply to "T218155"

T131306

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Summary by Dereckson

Various statistics error, mainly about uploaded files, on several wikis. A maintenance script has been run on all of them to fix that. See phab:T131306.

91.9.121.52 (talkcontribs)
91.9.121.52 (talkcontribs)

User_talk Dereckson/Archive_1 T131306

91.9.121.52 (talkcontribs)

booo, I couldn't link to the section in the Archive. System said

"This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and has been disallowed. If you believe your edit was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Flow spam filter: large amount of consonant/vowel clusters"

Dereckson (talkcontribs)
91.9.103.111 (talkcontribs)
91.9.103.111 (talkcontribs)
Glaisher (talkcontribs)

Hello. I'm really sorry about the inconvenience but the filter is really needed to catch the huge amount of spam we are receiving on this wiki. I spent sometime going through the hits and have come up with a new regex so that we it has less false positives. See .

Regards

91.9.112.221 (talkcontribs)

cebwiki has 128 in counter but 126 in listfiles

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

Final count is a little below 126: Counting number of images...114

91.9.103.219 (talkcontribs)
91.9.106.222 (talkcontribs)
Dereckson (talkcontribs)
77.179.237.215 (talkcontribs)
Dereckson (talkcontribs)

Done.

78.52.108.215 (talkcontribs)
Dereckson (talkcontribs)

Thanks to have noticed that, done.

78.52.117.80 (talkcontribs)
Dereckson (talkcontribs)

Done, and initSiteStats.php also counted 454.

78.55.25.168 (talkcontribs)
77.179.181.67 (talkcontribs)

ping regarding guwiki

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

Okay, looking at that.

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

Done :)

Reply to "T131306"

Disable local upload for closed Wikipedias

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77.179.25.193 (talkcontribs)
77.179.25.193 (talkcontribs)

Closed Wikipedias that have uploads still enabled: kj ho aa mus ng ii cho mh hz kr mo

Reply to "Disable local upload for closed Wikipedias"

Re T131306 / marking as solved

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91.9.117.178 (talkcontribs)

You marked this as solved. I don't know what effect that will have on the thread.(*) As of today ca. 150 Wikipedias have more than 10 local files and I may find more upload statistics errors.

(*) Now I know that I could not add the above text to Topic:T5tfyebezlm8rfv2

91.9.117.178 (talkcontribs)

Message was "This topic is resolved, so further activity is not possible."

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

Oh, sorry, I thought it was possible to reopen a solved conversation when needed.

91.9.99.10 (talkcontribs)

That might be a proposal to the devs. They could distinguish between Solved and Closed.

91.9.99.10 (talkcontribs)

The invitation "Reply to ..." and the input box are still there. Regarding phab:T142764 ListFiles in skwiki, maybe you can add

This Wikipedia has zero local media files now. That the file shows up in the list and in counters and stats leads to extra comments when talking about the zero-fileness of this WMF project.

PS: I tried to log in with a Wikimedia user account, but phab requires an email address.

91.9.100.60 (talkcontribs)

Can you re-open T131306? I have a new one with broken stats: mhrwiki has 7 in list, 6 in stat. (may change soon, but the diff would remain)

91.9.100.60 (talkcontribs)
= 19 vs  = 18
91.9.100.60 (talkcontribs)

The above was written in wikicode-mode, even now when trying to write with nowiki-tags the interface does unwanted things, breaking the nowiki-tags when trying the preview.

NOWIKI-start

<nowiki>[[new:Special:Statistics]] = 19 vs [[new:Special:Statistics]] = 18</nowiki>

NOWIKI-end

Now without brackets used normally for linking:

new:Special:Statistics = 19 vs new:Special:Statistics = 18

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

There is a link at the bottom right to switch between visual/code mode, as an [[]] icon.

77.179.25.193 (talkcontribs)

Since you re-opened https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:T5tfyebezlm8rfv2 allowing further re-count requests, this thread here, can be closed. The switch icon was used, behaviour when saving was unexpected, but that could be reported somehwere else if - after 3 months - the behaviour would still be the same as then.

Reply to "Re T131306 / marking as solved"
Acer (talkcontribs)

Hi, I've made the [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145279 changes you requested]. Could you please remove your comment? I fear it might have a negative effect on the willingness of other developers to engage the issue. Thank you. ~~~~

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

To track the history of the task is important. The fact we can found better merit than SEO to your suggestion would be interesting. So no, archive of this kind of elements is rather important and the Wikimedia movement doesn't engage in censorship activities. But I can discuss the issues with members of the community having commenting in the past Wikidata and Commons aspect and note their feedback to the task, if any, to make it move forward.

Reply to "Phab T145279"
LacoR (talkcontribs)

Hallo, I have tried to reopen the task T143472 because something wnent wrong - when the gender is set to neutral then the "User" Namespace si in Slovak incorrect. I am not sure whether the reopening was succesful - or shud i start a new request?

Thanks, LacoR

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

Reopeing is fine, I'm checking that.

Reply to "phab:T143472"

File upload on test2wiki

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Summary by Dereckson

test2wiki allows file upload, is that behavior is what we want?

91.9.97.119 (talkcontribs)
91.9.123.28 (talkcontribs)

If the files are not free they have to be deleted, as fair use cannot be established. If the files are free, they can be uploaded to Commons.

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

Perhaps someone uses it to test UploadWizard?

Ping @Matmarex

91.9.100.253 (talkcontribs)

Maybe sufficient to restrict to admins. Normal users still can use testwiki, the primary test wiki, which also has many more admins to handle copyvios.

Also, since many wikis restrict upload to admins, it might be worth having a testwiki with restricted upload.

91.9.117.178 (talkcontribs)

Rephrase, create Phab?: https://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles https://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Upload - upload open to group user. As of now the counter for uploaded files on Special:Statistics for test2wiki is at 126 files and that for testwiki at 3,524 files, the latter is more files than 83% of the 'real' Wikipedias have. Suggest to restrict upload on test2wiki to group admin and uploader. Rational: 1) Reduce likelihood of copyvio and clean-up work for admins. testwiki already has upload open to group user, so that one might be sufficient for open testing. 2) It might be good to have test2wiki as one restricted upload test environment.

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Test projects listed as Wikipedias in wikistats

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Summary by Dereckson

wikistats.wmflabs.org shouldn't allegedly display tests projects, as "they are not encyclopedias". They have been removed.

Preferred way of communication for these issues is on Phabricator: file a task to the "Labs-project-Wikistats" project and add Dzahn as subscriber.

91.9.123.28 (talkcontribs)
Dereckson (talkcontribs)

I forward your comments to project maintainer.

91.9.100.253 (talkcontribs)

Thanks a lot. Can you tell me who maintains wikistats? I have some other observations.

Dereckson (talkcontribs)
Mutante (talkcontribs)
Mutante (talkcontribs)

Oops yea, i just recently added these.. and now deleted "test" and "test2" again from the database used by wikistats.wmflabs.org. You can see more details on the phabricator tickets above. You can also feel free to just make tickets there and assign them if you want to report similar issues.

Mutante (talkcontribs)

If you want to use Phabricator: You can use an existing Wiki(m|p)edia wiki user to login there and create tickets. You can then add the tag "Labs-project-Wikistats" and user Dzahn. That will be the most effective way to reach me and get the fastest response.

Deleted file showing up in Special:ListFiles

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Summary by Dereckson
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Dereckson (talkcontribs)