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T131306

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Summary by Dereckson

Various statistics error, mainly about uploaded files, on several wikis. A maintenance script has been run on all of them to fix that. See phab:T131306.

91.9.121.52 (talkcontribs)

https://bo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics?uselang=en -1

91.9.121.52 (talkcontribs)

User_talk Dereckson/Archive_1 T131306

91.9.121.52 (talkcontribs)

booo, I couldn't link to the section in the Archive. System said

"This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and has been disallowed. If you believe your edit was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Flow spam filter: large amount of consonant/vowel clusters"

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

Hi,

Filter.

Annoying if the filter catches links. @Glaisher could you look at Special:AbuseLog/105544?

kshwiki

This has been done according wikitech:Server Admin Log#2016-06-07.

bowiki

Ack'ed. I'm looking at that.

91.9.103.111 (talkcontribs)

Thanks for all. https://arc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics?uselang=en -1

91.9.103.111 (talkcontribs)

https://ht.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics?uselang=en -3

Glaisher (talkcontribs)

Hello. I'm really sorry about the inconvenience but the filter is really needed to catch the huge amount of spam we are receiving on this wiki. I spent sometime going through the hits and have come up with a new regex so that we it has less false positives. See .

Regards

91.9.112.221 (talkcontribs)

cebwiki has 128 in counter but 126 in listfiles

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

Final count is a little below 126: Counting number of images...114

91.9.103.219 (talkcontribs)

re cebwiki: Thanks. It went down, since images were deleted. NEW: https://ast.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics?uselang=en = 0 , while https://ast.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles?uselang=en = 4

91.9.106.222 (talkcontribs)

mhrwiki mhr:Special:Statistics = -1 .

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

Done for new and mhr, filled as phab:T143352.

77.179.237.215 (talkcontribs)

sowiki off by 50 https://so.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics?uselang=en 17 VS https://so.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles?uselang=en 67

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

Done.

78.52.108.215 (talkcontribs)

simplewiki off by 12: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles?uselang=en 37 VS https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics?uselang=en 25

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

Thanks to have noticed that, done.

78.52.117.80 (talkcontribs)

pamwiki off by 66, https://pam.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles?uselang=en 454 VS https://pam.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics?uselang=en 388

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

Done, and initSiteStats.php also counted 454.

78.55.25.168 (talkcontribs)

guwiki off by 1, https://gu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles?uselang=en 11 VS https://gu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics?uselang=en 10

77.179.181.67 (talkcontribs)

ping regarding guwiki

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

Okay, looking at that.

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

Done :)

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Disable local upload for closed Wikipedias

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77.179.25.193 (talkcontribs)

Please disable uploads for closed Wikipedias. The page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias_having_zero_local_media_files lists Wikipedias having zero local media files, some have upload disabled completely. Please don't be less restrictive with closed projects.

77.179.25.193 (talkcontribs)

Closed Wikipedias that have uploads still enabled: kj ho aa mus ng ii cho mh hz kr mo

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91.9.117.178 (talkcontribs)

You marked this as solved. I don't know what effect that will have on the thread.(*) As of today ca. 150 Wikipedias have more than 10 local files and I may find more upload statistics errors.

(*) Now I know that I could not add the above text to Topic:T5tfyebezlm8rfv2

91.9.117.178 (talkcontribs)

Message was "This topic is resolved, so further activity is not possible."

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

Oh, sorry, I thought it was possible to reopen a solved conversation when needed.

91.9.99.10 (talkcontribs)

That might be a proposal to the devs. They could distinguish between Solved and Closed.

91.9.99.10 (talkcontribs)

The invitation "Reply to ..." and the input box are still there. Regarding phab:T142764 ListFiles in skwiki, maybe you can add

This Wikipedia has zero local media files now. That the file shows up in the list and in counters and stats leads to extra comments when talking about the zero-fileness of this WMF project.

PS: I tried to log in with a Wikimedia user account, but phab requires an email address.

91.9.100.60 (talkcontribs)

Can you re-open T131306? I have a new one with broken stats: mhrwiki has 7 in list, 6 in stat. (may change soon, but the diff would remain)

91.9.100.60 (talkcontribs)
= 19 vs  = 18
91.9.100.60 (talkcontribs)

The above was written in wikicode-mode, even now when trying to write with nowiki-tags the interface does unwanted things, breaking the nowiki-tags when trying the preview.

NOWIKI-start

<nowiki>[[new:Special:Statistics]] = 19 vs [[new:Special:Statistics]] = 18</nowiki>

NOWIKI-end

Now without brackets used normally for linking:

new:Special:Statistics = 19 vs new:Special:Statistics = 18

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

There is a link at the bottom right to switch between visual/code mode, as an [[]] icon.

77.179.25.193 (talkcontribs)

Since you re-opened https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:T5tfyebezlm8rfv2 allowing further re-count requests, this thread here, can be closed. The switch icon was used, behaviour when saving was unexpected, but that could be reported somehwere else if - after 3 months - the behaviour would still be the same as then.

Reply to "Re T131306 / marking as solved"
Acer (talkcontribs)

Hi, I've made the [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145279 changes you requested]. Could you please remove your comment? I fear it might have a negative effect on the willingness of other developers to engage the issue. Thank you. ~~~~

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

To track the history of the task is important. The fact we can found better merit than SEO to your suggestion would be interesting. So no, archive of this kind of elements is rather important and the Wikimedia movement doesn't engage in censorship activities. But I can discuss the issues with members of the community having commenting in the past Wikidata and Commons aspect and note their feedback to the task, if any, to make it move forward.

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LacoR (talkcontribs)

Hallo, I have tried to reopen the task T143472 because something wnent wrong - when the gender is set to neutral then the "User" Namespace si in Slovak incorrect. I am not sure whether the reopening was succesful - or shud i start a new request?

Thanks, LacoR

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

Reopeing is fine, I'm checking that.

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File upload on test2wiki

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Summary by Dereckson

test2wiki allows file upload, is that behavior is what we want?

91.9.97.119 (talkcontribs)

https://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles https://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Upload - upload open to everybody. Please disable. Not much too test with uploads and massive violations of https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Licensing_policy

91.9.123.28 (talkcontribs)

If the files are not free they have to be deleted, as fair use cannot be established. If the files are free, they can be uploaded to Commons.

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

Perhaps someone uses it to test UploadWizard?

Ping @Matmarex

91.9.100.253 (talkcontribs)

Maybe sufficient to restrict to admins. Normal users still can use testwiki, the primary test wiki, which also has many more admins to handle copyvios.

Also, since many wikis restrict upload to admins, it might be worth having a testwiki with restricted upload.

91.9.117.178 (talkcontribs)

Rephrase, create Phab?: https://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles https://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Upload - upload open to group user. As of now the counter for uploaded files on Special:Statistics for test2wiki is at 126 files and that for testwiki at 3,524 files, the latter is more files than 83% of the 'real' Wikipedias have. Suggest to restrict upload on test2wiki to group admin and uploader. Rational: 1) Reduce likelihood of copyvio and clean-up work for admins. testwiki already has upload open to group user, so that one might be sufficient for open testing. 2) It might be good to have test2wiki as one restricted upload test environment.

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Test projects listed as Wikipedias in wikistats

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Summary by Dereckson

wikistats.wmflabs.org shouldn't allegedly display tests projects, as "they are not encyclopedias". They have been removed.

Preferred way of communication for these issues is on Phabricator: file a task to the "Labs-project-Wikistats" project and add Dzahn as subscriber.

91.9.123.28 (talkcontribs)

https://wikistats.wmflabs.org/display.php?t=wp&s=images_asc - This conflicts with the listings at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias/Table and many other places. Test wikis are not Wikipedias, they are not encyclopedias.

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

I forward your comments to project maintainer.

91.9.100.253 (talkcontribs)

Thanks a lot. Can you tell me who maintains wikistats? I have some other observations.

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

@Mutante

Mutante (talkcontribs)

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142730

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140970#2534684

Mutante (talkcontribs)

Oops yea, i just recently added these.. and now deleted "test" and "test2" again from the database used by wikistats.wmflabs.org. You can see more details on the phabricator tickets above. You can also feel free to just make tickets there and assign them if you want to report similar issues.

Mutante (talkcontribs)

If you want to use Phabricator: You can use an existing Wiki(m|p)edia wiki user to login there and create tickets. You can then add the tag "Labs-project-Wikistats" and user Dzahn. That will be the most effective way to reach me and get the fastest response.

Deleted file showing up in Special:ListFiles

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Summary by Dereckson
91.9.125.81 (talkcontribs)

sk:Special:ListFiles lists sk:File:Smiley1.jpg which has been deleted. A test on 2016-08-10 to unlist it via undeletion and re-deletion failed.

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

Thanks to have noticed that. Task filled as phab:T142764.

91.9.100.253 (talkcontribs)

https://bat-smg.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nauduotuoj%C4%97_aptar%C4%97ms:Hugo.arg#File_upload_permissions - change from user to admin.

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

?

This should be discussed in a more visible place than a talk page. Please move the discussion to the local pump or most appropriate place on this wiki.

Tracked on phab:T142632.

91.9.100.253 (talkcontribs)

Thanks. Added to the page linked from Project:Village pump (Q16503): https://bat-smg.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikiped%C4%97j%C4%97:Aptar%C4%97m%C4%81#File_upload_permissions

91.9.100.253 (talkcontribs)

https://wikistats.wmflabs.org/display.php?t=wp&s=images_asc - Wikipedias sorted by file count. Is there a list available that shows file permissions for Wikipedias by project-language code? Probably most that have few files and no uploads since some months should have uploads restricted to admins or for zero-local-file-wikipedias maybe fully disabled. A table showing file count, admin count, last upload date, unused files count, upload permissions and existence of link from Wikidata EDP-item would be nice.

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

Yes, on https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php you scroll to wgEnableUploads section.

By default, users are allowed to upload (setting at true). Some have it disabled (false).

The ideal situation for small wikis is the commonsupload list: allowed, but restricted to sysops. The list for such wikis is at https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=commonsuploads.dblist.

So in a nutshell, the wikis you seek are those not in the commonsupload.dblist file and not with a false value for wgEnableUploads.

Dereckson (talkcontribs)

Here a list of all the wikis with upload still active for everyone:

abwiktionary
advisorywiki
afwiki
akwikibooks
akwiktionary
alswiki
alswikibooks
alswikiquote
alswiktionary
amwiki
amwikiquote
angwikiquote
angwikisource
angwiktionary
arbcom_dewiki
arbcom_enwiki
arbcom_fiwiki
arbcom_nlwiki
arwiki
arwikimedia
arwikinews
astwikibooks
astwikiquote
aswiki
aswikibooks
aswiktionary
auditcomwiki
avwiktionary
aywikibooks
azwiki
barwiki
bat_smgwiki
bawiki
bawikibooks
bdwikimedia
be_x_oldwiki
bewiki
bewikimedia
bhwiktionary
biwikibooks
biwiktionary
bmwikibooks
bmwikiquote
bmwiktionary
bnwiki
boardgovcomwiki
boardwiki
bowikibooks
bowiktionary
brwikimedia
bswiki
cawiki
cawikimedia
cawikisource
cewiki
chairwiki
chapcomwiki
checkuserwiki
chowiki
chwikibooks
chwiktionary
cnwikimedia
collabwiki
commonswiki
cowikibooks
cowikimedia
cowikiquote
crwikiquote
crwiktionary
cswikinews
cywiki
dawiki
dewiki
dewikibooks
dewikinews
dewikisource
dkwikimedia
donatewiki
dzwiktionary
elwiki
emlwiki
enwiki
enwikinews
enwikisource
enwikiversity
enwikivoyage
eowiki
eswikiversity
etwiki
etwikimedia
execwiki
fawikibooks
fawikinews
fawikivoyage
fdcwiki
fiwiki
fiwikimedia
fiwikisource
foundationwiki
frrwiki
frwiki
frwikisource
frwikivoyage
fywiki
gawikibooks
gawikiquote
glwiki
gnwikibooks
gotwikibooks
grantswiki
guwikibooks
hewiki
hewikibooks
hewikinews
hewikiquote
hewikisource
hewikivoyage
hewiktionary
hiwiki
howiki
hrwiki
htwikisource
huwiki
huwikibooks
hywiki
hzwiki
idwiki
iegcomwiki
iiwiki
ikwiktionary
ilwikimedia
internalwiki
iswiki
itwiki
itwikibooks
itwikinews
jawiki
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kawiki
kjwiki
kkwiki
kkwikiquote
knwikibooks
kowiki
kowikinews
kowikiquote
kowikiversity
krwiki
krwikiquote
kshwiki
kswikibooks
kswikiquote
kwwikiquote
labswiki
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lbwiki
lbwikibooks
lbwikiquote
legalteamwiki
lnwikibooks
ltwiki
lvwiki
lvwikibooks
mediawikiwiki
mhwiki
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miwikibooks
mkwiki
mkwikimedia
mlwiki
mnwikibooks
movementroleswiki
mowiki
mowiktionary
muswiki
mxwikimedia
mywiki
mywikibooks
nahwikibooks
nawikibooks
nawikiquote
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ndswikiquote
ngwiki
nlwiki
nlwikimedia
noboard_chapterswikimedia
nostalgiawiki
nowiki
nowikimedia
nowikinews
nvwiki
nycwikimedia
nzwikimedia
officewiki
ombudsmenwiki
orwikisource
otrs_wikiwiki
pa_uswikimedia
pawiki
pflwiki
piwiktionary
plwiki
plwikimedia
plwikinews
plwikisource
plwiktionary
pswikibooks
ptwiki
ptwikisource
qualitywiki
quwikibooks
quwikiquote
rmwiki
rmwikibooks
rmwiktionary
rnwiktionary
rowiki
rswikimedia
ruwikibooks
ruwikimedia
ruwikisource
ruwikiversity
ruwikivoyage
ruwiktionary
scwiktionary
searchcomwiki
sewikibooks
shwiki
simplewikibooks
simplewikiquote
siwiki
slwiki
snwiktionary
sourceswiki
spcomwiki
srwiki
stewardwiki
strategywiki
suwikibooks
swwikibooks
tawiki
tenwiki
test2wiki
testwiki
testwikidatawiki
tewiki
tewikisource
thwiki
tkwikibooks
tkwikiquote
towiktionary
transitionteamwiki
trwiki
trwikimedia
trwikinews
ttwiki
ttwikiquote
twwiktionary
uawikimedia
ugwikibooks
ugwikiquote
ukwiki
ukwikimedia
urwiki
usabilitywiki
uzwikibooks
vecwiki
viwiki
votewiki
vowikibooks
vowikiquote
wawikibooks
wg_enwiki
wikidatawiki
wikimania2005wiki
wikimania2006wiki
wikimania2007wiki
wikimania2008wiki
wikimania2009wiki
wikimania2010wiki
wikimania2011wiki
wikimania2012wiki
wikimania2013wiki
wikimania2014wiki
wikimania2015wiki
wikimania2016wiki
wikimania2017wiki
wikimaniateamwiki
xhwikibooks
xhwiktionary
yowikibooks
yowiktionary
zawikibooks
zawikiquote
zawiktionary
zerowiki
zh_min_nanwikibooks
zh_min_nanwikiquote
zh_yuewiki
zhwiki
zhwikibooks
zhwikiquote
zhwikivoyage
zuwikibooks
91.9.125.81 (talkcontribs)

The above list has 305 items, I searched for some strings that are not language codes and reduced to 87. But this still contains tenwiki, wg_enwiki (both prefixes could be language codes, but here are not) and nostalgia (which might be restricted in some other ways). Would not like to repeat the semi-manual way. Another method is using this regex

/^[a-z]{0,3}([_][a-z]{2,4}){0,2}wiki$/gm 

which on http://regexr.com/ matches 83 (exludes nostalgia, test, test2 and at least one unknown to me; includes ten and wg_en).

83 via regex:

afwiki
alswiki
amwiki
arwiki
aswiki
azwiki
barwiki
bat_smgwiki
bawiki
bewiki
bnwiki
bswiki
cawiki
cewiki
chowiki
cywiki
dawiki
dewiki
elwiki
emlwiki
enwiki
eowiki
etwiki
fdcwiki
fiwiki
frrwiki
frwiki
fywiki
glwiki
hewiki
hiwiki
howiki
hrwiki
huwiki
hywiki
hzwiki
idwiki
iiwiki
iswiki
itwiki
jawiki
kawiki
kjwiki
kkwiki
kowiki
krwiki
kshwiki
lbwiki
ltwiki
lvwiki
mhwiki
mkwiki
mlwiki
mowiki
muswiki
mywiki
ngwiki
nlwiki
nowiki
nvwiki
pawiki
pflwiki
plwiki
ptwiki
rmwiki
rowiki
shwiki
siwiki
slwiki
srwiki
tawiki
tenwiki
tewiki
thwiki
trwiki
ttwiki
ukwiki
urwiki
vecwiki
viwiki
wg_enwiki
zh_yuewiki
zhwiki
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