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Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Amire80/Archive 1 on 2015-08-25.

Melchior2006 (talkcontribs)

Hi, I am also having the edit-abuse problem with my English translation of "Claude Vaussin". Can you help? --~~~~

Melchior2006 (talkcontribs)

The warning reads: "Hit AbuseFilter: Content Translation Edits"

Melchior2006 (talkcontribs)

The translation is from the German wiki into English.

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Getting a standard set of message tags for the wikisources' sidebar

Billinghurst (talkcontribs)

Over at User:AKlapper (WMF)#Guidance for for introducing a standard set of mediawiki: ns pages for sister wikis, I was asking naive questions on the process for looking to systematically getting MW: ns messages where the Wikisources have a level of common urls in the Sidebar. One to get some defaults in place just to make it easier, and then to get the translations in place for message names. AK indicates that it sits as a language-type matter, so I thought of you, especially as coding is something that I wish to avoid.

Do you see that this could sit under the coordination of the Language team if the Wikisources are able to agree to a common set of terms/urls? Thanks.

AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I don't see how this is "a language-type matter". In my understanding anyone interested in this could coordinate and reach out to communities, and anyone interested in this could volunteer to follow Gerrit instructions and propose a patch.

Billinghurst (talkcontribs)

I see it as a language-type matter for the Wikisources as this is something that can already be done now for the wikisources through Sidebar and as said numbers already have this specific set of links in the sidebar. I am hoping that what we can offer the WS community is a range of default urls they can easily implemented in their sidebars, AND when they go to another WS they will be able to see those links in their language. I am not looking to offer new functionality, just repeating url components and corresponding labels.

Amire80 (talkcontribs)

Heh, a very curious question.

It's a huge topic, but very briefly:

Andre, while it's not exactly a language issue, in practice, the implementation of the sidebar does involve system messages, so it is a good idea to involve the Language team in finding a good way to make them more robust and portable.

A quick and simple solution is probably something like this:

  • Discuss with people from other Wikisource editions what do they want in the sidebar.
  • Once you arrive at an agreement for at least a few of them, write the common sidebar code. By "code" I mean something like s:en:MediaWiki:Sidebar, so it's something with which you are already familiar.
  • Once it's done, it can probably be added as a message in Extension:WikimediaMessages. If you don't want to go deeply into Gerrit, I can do it for you.
  • Once it's merged, it will be possible to translate it on, and after it's translated, it will be auto-deployed to all the languages. Doing this is more robust than managing a local MediaWiki:Sidebar in each wiki site.
  • So far, so good, but I'm less sure about the next part: Each language will have to get rid of its local MediaWiki:Sidebar (this is easy—just delete the page) and to enable the sidebar code from WikimediaMessages. I'm not quite sure how to do this. Maybe User:Nikerabbit will have an idea. And maybe he'll suggest scrapping this whole plan, and doing something else ;)

In the longer term, I envision proper product management work around the sidebar: Analyzing its usability, design, clicks frequency, customization options, and so on. But the naïve little plan above can be a first step.

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Would You report Vandalism?

Summary by Tropicalkitty

No action taken. Tropicalkitty (talk) 18:08, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Hans Haase (talkcontribs)
Til Eulenspiegel (talkcontribs)

Hans, get off my case, please. You are doing everything you can to thwart me. JUST LEAVE ME ALONE, UNDERSTOOD?

Tropicalkitty (talkcontribs)

Just noticed this myself, but I'll let this go, despite blanking legitimate comments that are on-topic to the discussion/scope. Please don't do this again. (talkcontribs)

Dear Amire

It has been a long since we saw you in South Africa. I hope you are keeping well all of you at home.

I have never struggled the way I do right now with logging in when I want to work on Wikipedia. Do I have to create a new account?

This is the third work I have been struggling with the same problem. Please help me if you can. My username is nomden. I have two e-mail addresses,1), 2)

Please help me, if you can.


Nozibele nomdebevana

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DePiep (talkcontribs)

About Parsoid/Language conversion/Preprocessor fixups/20170501. I saw you edited the hebrew pages. Could you try to handle arabic script too this way (arwiki)? I can handle the russian and japanese script wikis, but right-to-left scripts (pages even) are too tricky for me. I cannot edit those 'in the blind'. There may be more rtl scripts listed.

Amire80 (talkcontribs)


Thanks for asking!

I'll try fixing some of the simpler cases, because the directionality works the same way in Hebrew and in Arabic, but I probably don't know the Arabic language nearly well enough to fix them all, so I'll probably have to ask for somebody's help at some point.

Amire80 (talkcontribs)

OK, so I managed to do more than I thought I'd be able to do, and completed most of "other".

For Chemistry, I created {{Hyphen}}, as in English and Hebrew. Would you be able to do the rest?

The non-articles are mostly Lua modules.

DePiep (talkcontribs)

" Would you be able to do the rest?" - eh, not that fast.

I asked you because I can handle left-to-right scripts 'into the blind'. Because cyrillic also has the the l-to-r page, I can find & click the tabs and menus (without understanding) in russia ruwiki.

However, in R-to-L hebrew and arabic pages, I cannot even locate the menu words. I cannot create my useful /sandbox page (no need to teach me ;-) ). That's why I asked you: maybe you can edit 'blindly' the r-to-l wikis.

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what happened to Content Translation Tool

Endo999 (talkcontribs)

Hey, what happened to the Content Translation Tool? It was there yesterday on my Contributions menu, but it has now disappeared. And the reference to it in BETA tools is not there either. It's not there in fr.wikipedia too. Has the tool been withdrawn or has my account, endo999, been banned. I haven't translated in 2 months. What's the problem?

Amire80 (talkcontribs)

Technical reasons, server failure. The developers are investigating it. It will be back as soon as possible. Thank you very much for the interest.

Vitosmo (talkcontribs)

.... Uf .... scarry! Don't do it at home;) I never could even think of losing my ongoing work on Wikipedia. Well, (I hope) I did not.


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Shaxoo (talkcontribs)

the biggest glitch i noticed is "will automatically the parameter value" please take a look and clarify.

Shaxoo (talkcontribs)

the meaning of "WMF wikis" is probably not obvious to everyone. i'd expand to "wikis of the Wikimedia Foundation"

Amire80 (talkcontribs)
Shaxoo (talkcontribs)

woops... :-)

Shaxoo (talkcontribs)

"You will probably want to use subst: to make the values stick:" also assumes intimate previous knowledge about mediawiki. i'd additionally drop the word "prefix" in there. like so: "You will probably want to use the prefix subst: with the values to make them stick:"

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Revision Slider - write up on RTL issues

Leszek Manicki (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Hi! I am writing to let you know that we've just published notes on developing a RTL-accessible feature in MediaWiki environment based on our experiences while developing Revision Slider. We've mentioned you in the acknowledgements section of text but let us thank you once again for all your help! We really appreciate it.

Amire80 (talkcontribs)

Oh, you're very kind :)

Thank you!

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Çeviri sayfasının formatının bozulması

Ali Alçı (talkcontribs)

Function model sayfasını çevirirken sayfanın formatı bozuldu. Çeviri yapılacak paragraflar uygun yerde gelmiyor. Lütfen yardım eder misiniz. Gerekirse çeviriyi tamamen silebilirsiniz. Ben tekrar baştan başlayabilirim. Teşekkürler.

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Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hi there! Because you are a proud member of the community taskforce for the visual editor, I'm sending you this short questionnaire so that we can learn how to improve existing resources and about different ways to build and share community knowledge. Thanks for participating! I'll come back here to collect your answers on September 9th. I'll collate answers on the taskforce talk page. Talk to you soon!

PS: If for any reason you'd like to provide your answers privately, just send me an email instead.

  1. Was the existing documentation about how to adapt the visual editor to your context useful to you?
    • Do you have ideas about how to improve or expand it? (Note it has been changed recently, here's what it looked like before.)
    • What is your preferred format to learn about something or about how to get things done? Feel free to list tools or other resources, even if they aren't being used currently on our sites.
  2. What is the one thing related to adapting the visual editor which is not explained well anywhere and you're still struggling to learn more about?
  3. Did you create additional documentation/resources to help yourself and others? Like user guides, how-to/instruction pages, etc.? If so, please provide links.
  4. Did somebody else from WMF or your community assist you with the visual editor community work you did so far? Please list names and the ways they provided support (like, Alice sent me an email to explain how to do X). Please, add community members' names to the taskforce list if they are not there yet.
Amire80 (talkcontribs)
  1. That page is pretty complete. I'll use the opportunity to mention my usual delenda est thing, however, even though it's non-trivial and requires a lot of patience and dedication: Investigating the appearance of <nowiki> tags, frequently auto-inserted by VE and Parsoid (and by extension Content Translation). I did it in the Hebrew Wikipedia, documented it in English, and reported a bunch of bugs as a result (some fixed, some declined ;) ). Along the way, all the appearances of <nowiki> can be removed from the article space. I can think of no good reason for them to ever appear there, at least in the languages I know, although they are often needed in other spaces like Project: and Help:. They can easily be found by running a search for "insource:nowiki". There were thousands of them in Hebrew, and I removed them all. In other languages I can see thousands of them. I'd love to help dedicated people who know the relevant language get rid of them. The common reasons for their appearance may be different in other languages. It's useful not just for wiki syntax cleanliness, but also for finding useful VE and Parsoid bugs.
  2. Being an experienced Wikipedia, I am not struggling with this myself, but every time I explain about VE to other people, the need to know names of templates when inserting them is the most puzzling part for the newbies. This is filed as .
  3. Other than nowiki thing, which I created, and which I update continuously, there's a simple thing I do: Every time I happen to notice diffs in which somebody is struggling to do something using VE, I go to the help page about it in my home wiki and make sure that it explains how to do it in VE. Many of the local help pages were written many years ago before VE and only reflect wiki syntax (and sometimes they are outdated even for wiki syntax). I did this for the Hebrew counterparts of Wikipedia:Categorization and Help:Footnotes and maybe other pages I forgot ;)
  4. Other than WMF VE developers, designers, managers and liaisons (like you!), the community person with whom I worked on this the most is probably Eran (@ערן), who knows much more than I do about deep customization and gadgets than I do.
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