Topic on Project:Village Pump

I don't have a better idea for a name, but having "Current issues" on the sidebar, suggests a place to report current issues/bugs about MediaWiki, not to have site discussion.

Perhaps Village Pump would be better. Its wiki specific jargon, but at least its unlikely to confuse people just wanted support for MW.

Agreed. I think this is a confusing mismatch of name and function.

Village Pump works for me.

Yeah, I agree.

We might have a difficulty moving the page given the number of posts on it, however. :-(

Well there's an easy way to find out, and that's by trying it :)

I agree that Village Pump works better as a page title.

We have no Village stocks here, so don't worry.

I'll try to move, hopefully nothing breaks.

 Done. MediaWiki did not let me leave redirects behind for some reason so I have re-added those manually.

Might be related to the page's content model. Thanks anyway.

We need a Wikidata admin to fix the sitelink at Project:Village pump (Q16503).

Done, see d:Special:Diff/1347425283.

I think I got the most important uses fixed. I'll try to clean the rest up later.

Thanks for making this change! Can we switch to "Village pump" (lowercase "p") to match most of the other page titles on the site?

As it's a proper noun, I think it should be with the current capitalisation. (Also all the other ones should be updated back to being proper case, as they are standard MediaWiki terms; was there a discussion about changing them?)

Sentence case is generally the accepted way to capitalize page names here. That said, what other ones are you referring to?

See the sidebar, where the link to RecentChanges is "Recent changes" etc..

That's MediaWiki's default; the link there is unedited. See MediaWiki:Recentchanges -- page doesn't exist so it inherits the default from i18n/en.json. All of the default sidebar links are sentence case.

Huh, yes, and has been that way since at least 2006 from by git diving. Fascinating.

I see "village pump" as a common noun: "set of pages used to discuss the technical issues, policies, and operations of a Wikimedia wiki" (Wikidata). Looking at the Wikidata entry, most village pump pages on other wikis use sentence case, as well as similar pages like "Reading room", "Water cooler", and "Beer parlour".

Yes, the generic use of a proper noun is often a common noun ("five kings"), but the specific instance would still be a proper noun ("the King").

However, as @Skizzerz says, we've apparently always been wrong in this way, so let's just leave it like that. :-) Fixed.

I personally think this change could have been advertised better, as it turns out I completely missed this discussion.