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When has your experience been editing on a mobile device using the visual editor?

Frustrating? Satisfying? Confusing?

Whatever your experience might be, we are eager to hear. Also, please do not feel limited by the prompt above. This is a great place to share and talk about anything related to mobile editing. So please: feel empowered to use this space as you see it...we're going to do the same!

Can't mark edits as minor in mobile

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Summary by Whatamidoing (WMF)
Masumrezarock100 (talkcontribs)

There is no option to mark edits as minor in mobile source editor. I can't even see changes ( "Show changes"). The "edit summary required" setting doesn't work on mobile too. Please fix these issues. IMO, mobile source editor needs urgent work.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

What device are you using?

Masumrezarock100 (talkcontribs)

Chrome Dev For Android 78.0.3902.3 Android Nougat ZTE. The visual editor on mobile has the option to show changes, mark edit as minor. But in the source editor, all I can do is edit the source, click "Next" and give edit summary and then "Publish" page. I get to see a preview of what I changed but I can't see the preview in wikitext.

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Nick Moyes (talkcontribs)

A questioner at the Teahouse on en-wiki has asked why tables that are sortable in desktop view are no longer sortable when seen in 'mobile view'. Is this something that is planned to be implemented at some point in the future? And do we have a comparison table anywhere that shows which functions are currently available/unavailable in each of the two views?

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

@TheDJ, have there been any changes to the sorting recently?

Nick Moyes (talkcontribs)

@Whatamidoing (WMF) @TheDJ Can I clarify, as I appreciate there's an unintended ambiguity in my question above. I did not mean to suggest that sorting in mobile view once worked, but doesn't any longer. I meant to imply that a page with a table that can be sorted in desktop view doesn't permit that table to be sorted when the page is displayed in mobile view (and presumably never has). So my question was to ask whether there are any plans to enable this, or if there are good reasons why sorting of tables is disabled in mobile view?

TheDJ (talkcontribs)

hmm. tablesorter is marked as a mobile compatible module.. I suspect it is because Minerva overrides getDefaultModules() as a skin, which causes a variety of modules to be missed... Suggest filing a ticket in phabricator

Nick Moyes (talkcontribs)

@TheDJ @Whatamidoing (WMF) I'd be grateful if one of you could raise this, please. I've little experience of Phabricator.

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Traumflug (talkcontribs)

Nice efforts! But pretty disappointing to see these efforts being limited to "mobile" devices. "Mobile" devices are perfectly normal computers, just with a smaller physical screen. Also, there's no boundary between "mobile" and not mobile devices. Smartphone <-> tablet <-> laptop <-> desktop is effectively all the same, just with growing screen sizes (what about a phone connected to a large desktop screen? What about desktop users using a small window?).

Very obviously, desktop users would benefit from all these enhancements as well, so please remove this artifical distinction. Wikipedia is one community!

Ottawahitech (talkcontribs)

This is a problem, I agree, also for mobile users.

For example I have been trying to participate in a WMF "mockup" of a tool that will supposedly replace "wiki-blame", and only after spending (wasting?) precious time figured out WMF has no intention of making it available for non-desktop devices. Apparently the use of mobile devices never even crossed the minds of the developers.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

That's not true; they did consider mobile users. They have posted an explanation for why the current project is a browser extension, how that interacts with mobile devices (namely, Chrome for Android doesn't support any browser extensions), and their goal is to make it technologically possible for the code to run on Firefox for Android, i.e., on a mobile device.

Note also that the older version isn't going away, because lots of people are unable to install browser extensions (e.g., students using school computers).

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

There are some differences in device power, and the screen size is very important for the design. A typical laptop screen can have many tools displayed in a single row, and a smartphone might have room for just five (approximately one small button for every 20 mm in screen width). Additionally, the interactions with soft keyboards require separate programming.

Is there anything in particular that you would like to see on both platforms?

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Visual editor for mobile translators

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Wladek92 (talkcontribs)

Hi all, I only make translations using my laptop and standard html interface but i have bought a tablette recently. Is is worth to use the tablette instead ? is the version stable enough ? or are there specific functions to test there ?

Christian Wia (talk) 15:00, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Wladek92 (talkcontribs)

I just accessed the mobile version to do my translations; but there is no lateral bar, less functions so, only one alert/notification icon. I prefer the laptop version for now.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

The visual editor doesn't fully support Extension:Translate, so I can't recommend it for that purpose.

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Opsylac (talkcontribs)

Hi,

I have the Wikipedia mobile app and the visual editor isn't accessible there... Will this feature be available soon ?

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Probably not. I don't think that the mobile apps team is planning to create any sort of visual editing system.

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Hockew (talkcontribs)
Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Columns are usually difficult for mobile layouts. They need to be dynamic (able to change the number of columns) to fit onto mobile screens.

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