Talk:Edit Review Improvements/New filters for edit review

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Leave your thoughts and ideas here about the New Filters for Edit Review filtering tools and interface.

These are now standard on Recent Changes and the Watchlist. What works well? What could work better?

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Development status

New filters for edit review are in maintenance mode. Major bugs will be fixed but no improvements are scheduled for now.

How to provide feedback

  • do you have that bug when you are not logged-in?
  • explain how to reproduce the bug (step by step)
  • tell us what is your configuration (browser version, scripts you use...)
  • say on what page it is happening (Recent Changes, Watchlist...)

Also see the FAQ.

Latest revision filter improvement idea

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Jackattack1597 (talkcontribs)

I think that it would be useful if the latest revision filter also showed revisions that would be the latest if it didn't count edits from the same user as being the latest revision. The point would be so that vandals couldn't make a random useful edit to make it harder for people to find their vandalism.

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Need new filter to watch all pages and talk pages under a given URL prefix

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Nealmcb (talkcontribs)

As a facilitator of elections, in which there is a sudden rapid infusion of new pages and edits under e.g. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2019/, I need a filter to monitor ALL changes under a prefix like that. Thus new nominations, endorsements of nominations, discussions of procedures and candidates are all things that I want quick and easy notification of. Thank you!

Bluerasberry (talkcontribs)

+1 good for wiki elections

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

The only way to do this now would be to have a dedicated namespace for elections.

Filtering categories is not covered and not scheduled for development.

Nealmcb (talkcontribs)

It sounds like someone has an approach that works. Tell us more, @Bluerasberry.

Also, perhaps it can be done via a bot now?

But I'm not sure what you mean about filtering categories. I'm looking for prefixes.

Thanks.

Bluerasberry (talkcontribs)

@Nealmcb I asked someone else and they showed me how to do this. I will demo it at the next meeting.

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GPSLeo (talkcontribs)

When working on a project, especial on Wikidata, you trust the edits of the other users in the project and only want to see(and check) edits by users they are not part of the project. For that a filter by the user who did the change would be nice.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

That feature hasn't been implanted for now because it requires to have more investigations about a possible use to harass people. [2]

Gabrielchihonglee (talkcontribs)

I think it's a pretty good suggestion as it could help administrators to monitor user activities. Sometimes, I'd like to be able to filter the recent changes to only see the edits made by a specific list of users, who need to be monitored to various reasons, such as suspicious edits.

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Unseen changes highlight is buggy

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Summary by Trizek (WMF)
Ita140188 (talkcontribs)

I have had problems with the highlight of unseen changes (blue dot and bold font in watchlist) since the new watchlist was introduced, and it is getting worse recently. There are two kinds of problems:

- Articles would still show as unseen even though I already opened it, or even edited it.

- If there are new edits to a page I have seen earlier, all the previous edits (of the previous days, for example) become "unseen".

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

There is a bug on that feature. It has been detailed on the last issue of Tech News:

  • Special:Watchlist can show the wrong information. It does not always show which edits are read and which are unread. The developers are working on solving the problem. [1]
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Don't drop the showlinkedto part of a "Show Related Changes" URL upon reload

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Daniel Mietchen (talkcontribs)

This is a follow-up on Don't change the URL automatically when reloading page.

I can reproduce this now:

Since I am frequently using the namespace and limit parameters as well, I had originally suspected them to be the problem but they do not alter the core problem, i.e. omitting the showlinkedto part upon reload.

Kaartic (talkcontribs)

I just followed the above steps but couldn't reproduce it. I also tried changing the namespace and limit parameters, just in case. They are preserved too along with the showlinkedto part after a refresh.

Could you provide some environment details (browser details with version, skin, etc.)?

Daniel Mietchen (talkcontribs)

Firefox 62.0 on Ubuntu 18.04.1, using the default Vector skin on Wikidata.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I just followed the above steps but couldn't reproduce it either.

Do you have that issue when using an URL with &safemode=1 inside?

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ARZ100 (talkcontribs)

I was on my Wikipedia watchlist and I clicked a link that told me to say what I thought about the filter features. I like them.

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I would like to receive a notification when a page of my watch list is modified.

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Wladek92 (talkcontribs)

I am a translator. I put the EN pages in my watch list. Then I must open the link of my watch list each time to see if something is interesting. I would like to receive a visual notification when a page of my watch list is modified instead. Is that possible ? or have I missed a step in my Preferences ?

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Have you considered to receive watchlist updates by email?

I'm working on several dozens of wikis every week, so I don't use my watchlist at all, just emails.

For my volunteer account, my start page is my French Wikipedia watchlist. However, I rely on emails to keep me posted about edits made on pages I watch on other wikis.

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"available on all wikis" or "on certain Wikimedia wikis only"?

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SebastianHelm (talkcontribs)

There's a hatnote saying that "All features below are now standard on the Recent Changes page and on Watchlist and are available on all wikis", but many features start with a limiting comment such as "Available on certain Wikimedia wikis only". Which is true?

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Good catch!

All features under "New filters for edit review" banner are now default if you install the lastest version of Mediawiki and default on all Wikimedia wikis. Both are available immediately if you create an account, it is possible to opt-out.

This is true on the Recent Changes and Recent Changes Linked pages and on Watchlist.

Can you change the inaccurate sentences you've found?

Thanks!

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51.77.152.216 (talkcontribs)

This filter is very useful on PCs, but it's hard to use on mobile, as mentioned in Topic:Uhnqsao0zg7axw17.

However, on a vector skin with the $wgVectorResponse option or on a timeless skin, this filter is still visible on the mobile.

In this case, please tell me how to use the original filter on your mobile.

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What are the default filters? Or is default to show all contributions? If so, many editors will give up on using their watchlist

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Timeshifter (talkcontribs)

What are the default filters? Or is default to show all contributions (no active filters)? I see no "default" button for a pre-selected list of active filters chosen by the wiki admins. If default is to show all contributions, then I believe many editors will stop using their watchlist very much, if at all.

Anyone with a lot of categories on their watchlist may give up as I almost did before someone selected some filters for me. See my other thread. The filters are baffling, even to longtime editors. The "all contributions" watchlist shows all the many files added and removed from those watchlisted categories. That makes the watchlist very long and almost useless. One can't find the important stuff buried among the files being added and removed.

A pre-selected fallback list of active filters might keep many editors from abandoning their watchlist over time. There needs to be a filter to show all revisions, except for revisions for talk pages. The filter should set talk pages to latest revision. Otherwise the same active talk pages will show up on every day of the watchlist. I like seeing all revisions (for most things), but had to turn it off due to talk pages filling up my watchlist.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Default filters are the ones people got when they opened the watchlist the first time on the old configuration. You see all contributions.

You can redefined default filters by clearing all of them (trash bin icon), which will give you access to the "restaure default filters". It is possible to define a different set of filters for your wiki, after a community consensus.

You can personally set your favorite set of filters, by saving a preset and defining by default.

You can exclude some namespaces, for instance talk pages (click on "namespace", then select one or multiple namespaces, then click on "excluding namespaces"). That selection can be saved for you as well, so that you can switch to it anytime.

Timeshifter (talkcontribs)

I have been talking about the Commons watchlist. I suggest that "Restore default filters" be supplemented and improved with 2 options that are always visible:

  • "Restore my saved default filters".
  • "Restore the Commons default filters".

What do you mean by "old configuration"? Are you talking about checking the box for the setting, "Hide the improved version of the watchlist":

I don't want to totally exclude the talk pages on the Commons from my watchlist. I only want to see the last revision of talk pages.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Default Commons filters are the ones you get when you access your watchlist the first time, if you haven't changed them. If you wish to define another set of filters as default, you can save them as "Commons default filters". Then you can switch between "Restore my saved default filters" and "Commons default filters".

By old configuration, I mean the one you get by selecting "Hide the improved version of the watchlist" on https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist.

To get the last revision of talk pages exclusively, you combine two filters: the one for talk pages and the one for "latest revision". You can go further and filter multiple kind of talk pages, differentiating them using highlights (here yellow for Talk: and green for File talk:).

Timeshifter (talkcontribs)

Thanks. I saved the first-time watchlist filters.

Both of the talk page filter combinations ended up with empty watchlists. I looked back 14 days too. So they are not allowing talk pages at all on the watchlist.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Empty results mean that there is no changes on talk pages you watch for those combinations. I don't have changes on my volunteer's account watchlist either.

You can test those combinations on RecentChanges to be sure they're working. Just change "Watchlist" by "RecentChanges" in the URL:

Timeshifter (talkcontribs)

OK. Some talk pages on my watchlist are Commons talk, template talk, category talk.

Are there any generic talk filters?

Kaartic (talkcontribs)

> Are there any generic talk filters?

I suppose there isn't a direct Generic talk filter. But, I think you could use the "Exclude selected" option and do some magic with it. For example the linked set of filters would show you all the RecentChanges to the talk pages in en.wikipedia. That's done by excluding all the corresponding article namespaces.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

@Timeshifter, you're looking for a global filter for all talk pages?

Timeshifter (talkcontribs)

Yes, I am looking for a way to see all talk pages changes in my watchlist. But I only want to see the latest revisions for talk pages.

Timeshifter (talkcontribs)
Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

That would be visible through time.

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