Talk:Edit Review Improvements/New filters for edit review

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Leave your thoughts and ideas here about the New Filters for Edit Review filtering tools and interface.

These are now standard on Recent Changes and the Watchlist. What works well? What could work better?

Leave feedback in any language.

Development status

New filters for edit review are in maintenance mode. Major bugs will be fixed but no improvements are scheduled for now.

How to provide feedback

  • do you have that bug when you are not logged-in?
  • explain how to reproduce the bug (step by step)
  • tell us what is your configuration (browser version, scripts you use...)
  • say on what page it is happening (Recent Changes, Watchlist...)

Also see the FAQ.

I would like to receive a notification when a page of my watch list is modified.

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Wladek92 (talkcontribs)

I am a translator. I put the EN pages in my watch list. Then I must open the link of my watch list each time to see if something is interesting. I would like to receive a visual notification when a page of my watch list is modified instead. Is that possible ? or have I missed a step in my Preferences ?

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GPSLeo (talkcontribs)

When working on a project, especial on Wikidata, you trust the edits of the other users in the project and only want to see(and check) edits by users they are not part of the project. For that a filter by the user who did the change would be nice.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

That feature hasn't been implanted for now because it requires to have more investigations about a possible use to harass people. [2]

Gabrielchihonglee (talkcontribs)

I think it's a pretty good suggestion as it could help administrators to monitor user activities. Sometimes, I'd like to be able to filter the recent changes to only see the edits made by a specific list of users, who need to be monitored to various reasons, such as suspicious edits.

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51.77.152.216 (talkcontribs)

This filter is very useful on PCs, but it's hard to use on mobile, as mentioned in Topic:Uhnqsao0zg7axw17.

However, on a vector skin with the $wgVectorResponse option or on a timeless skin, this filter is still visible on the mobile.

In this case, please tell me how to use the original filter on your mobile.

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"available on all wikis" or "on certain Wikimedia wikis only"?

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SebastianHelm (talkcontribs)

There's a hatnote saying that "All features below are now standard on the Recent Changes page and on Watchlist and are available on all wikis", but many features start with a limiting comment such as "Available on certain Wikimedia wikis only". Which is true?

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Good catch!

All features under "New filters for edit review" banner are now default if you install the lastest version of Mediawiki and default on all Wikimedia wikis. Both are available immediately if you create an account, it is possible to opt-out.

This is true on the Recent Changes and Recent Changes Linked pages and on Watchlist.

Can you change the inaccurate sentences you've found?

Thanks!

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How to filter (out) AWB edits

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Summary by Trizek (WMF)

Work on filtering our/excluding tags is scheduled for April 2019.

Hsarrazin (talkcontribs)
Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Bonjour! Do you have a local filter for AWB on your wiki? A previous discussion has happen about this topic, you may find there some information.

Hsarrazin (talkcontribs)

ok. I just added a filter (hope I did it right here ^^)

Now, how can I filter the tag out? ...

I only have the option to display only the tag, but not to display anything but the tag...

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Filtering tags out is not possible (et c'est bien dommage). You have to select all tags but the one you cant to exclude. :/

There is a ticket about that and some plans to work on it starting April 2019.

Hsarrazin (talkcontribs)

ok, so, having a filter for AWB is no use at all for this :(

ok, so I'll have to find something else...

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

If you've selected all filters but AWB, you can save that filter set. Sorry, that's the best I can offer. :/

Hsarrazin (talkcontribs)

yes, indeed : but all our filters are designed to filter potentially problematic edits... many edits I want to see are not tagged because they are not problematic, so...

-> just did what you propose... and got absolutely no answer - that's a good sign : it means we do not have a lot of really problematic contributors ^^

but that is not what I was hoping for... just wanted all edits except those AWB that are made by one of our admins...

well, we'll have to wait for a solution from our dear devs ;p

Thanks for your efforts...

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

And thank you for your patience!

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Don't drop the showlinkedto part of a "Show Related Changes" URL upon reload

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Daniel Mietchen (talkcontribs)

This is a follow-up on Don't change the URL automatically when reloading page.

I can reproduce this now:

Since I am frequently using the namespace and limit parameters as well, I had originally suspected them to be the problem but they do not alter the core problem, i.e. omitting the showlinkedto part upon reload.

Kaartic (talkcontribs)

I just followed the above steps but couldn't reproduce it. I also tried changing the namespace and limit parameters, just in case. They are preserved too along with the showlinkedto part after a refresh.

Could you provide some environment details (browser details with version, skin, etc.)?

Daniel Mietchen (talkcontribs)

Firefox 62.0 on Ubuntu 18.04.1, using the default Vector skin on Wikidata.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I just followed the above steps but couldn't reproduce it either.

Do you have that issue when using an URL with &safemode=1 inside?

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What are the default filters? Or is default to show all contributions? If so, many editors will give up on using their watchlist

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Timeshifter (talkcontribs)

What are the default filters? Or is default to show all contributions (no active filters)? I see no "default" button for a pre-selected list of active filters chosen by the wiki admins. If default is to show all contributions, then I believe many editors will stop using their watchlist very much, if at all.

Anyone with a lot of categories on their watchlist may give up as I almost did before someone selected some filters for me. See my other thread. The filters are baffling, even to longtime editors. The "all contributions" watchlist shows all the many files added and removed from those watchlisted categories. That makes the watchlist very long and almost useless. One can't find the important stuff buried among the files being added and removed.

A pre-selected fallback list of active filters might keep many editors from abandoning their watchlist over time. There needs to be a filter to show all revisions, except for revisions for talk pages. The filter should set talk pages to latest revision. Otherwise the same active talk pages will show up on every day of the watchlist. I like seeing all revisions (for most things), but had to turn it off due to talk pages filling up my watchlist.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Default filters are the ones people got when they opened the watchlist the first time on the old configuration. You see all contributions.

You can redefined default filters by clearing all of them (trash bin icon), which will give you access to the "restaure default filters". It is possible to define a different set of filters for your wiki, after a community consensus.

You can personally set your favorite set of filters, by saving a preset and defining by default.

You can exclude some namespaces, for instance talk pages (click on "namespace", then select one or multiple namespaces, then click on "excluding namespaces"). That selection can be saved for you as well, so that you can switch to it anytime.

Timeshifter (talkcontribs)

I have been talking about the Commons watchlist. I suggest that "Restore default filters" be supplemented and improved with 2 options that are always visible:

  • "Restore my saved default filters".
  • "Restore the Commons default filters".

What do you mean by "old configuration"? Are you talking about checking the box for the setting, "Hide the improved version of the watchlist":

I don't want to totally exclude the talk pages on the Commons from my watchlist. I only want to see the last revision of talk pages.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Default Commons filters are the ones you get when you access your watchlist the first time, if you haven't changed them. If you wish to define another set of filters as default, you can save them as "Commons default filters". Then you can switch between "Restore my saved default filters" and "Commons default filters".

By old configuration, I mean the one you get by selecting "Hide the improved version of the watchlist" on https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist.

To get the last revision of talk pages exclusively, you combine two filters: the one for talk pages and the one for "latest revision". You can go further and filter multiple kind of talk pages, differentiating them using highlights (here yellow for Talk: and green for File talk:).

Timeshifter (talkcontribs)

Thanks. I saved the first-time watchlist filters.

Both of the talk page filter combinations ended up with empty watchlists. I looked back 14 days too. So they are not allowing talk pages at all on the watchlist.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Empty results mean that there is no changes on talk pages you watch for those combinations. I don't have changes on my volunteer's account watchlist either.

You can test those combinations on RecentChanges to be sure they're working. Just change "Watchlist" by "RecentChanges" in the URL:

Timeshifter (talkcontribs)

OK. Some talk pages on my watchlist are Commons talk, template talk, category talk.

Are there any generic talk filters?

Kaartic (talkcontribs)

> Are there any generic talk filters?

I suppose there isn't a direct Generic talk filter. But, I think you could use the "Exclude selected" option and do some magic with it. For example the linked set of filters would show you all the RecentChanges to the talk pages in en.wikipedia. That's done by excluding all the corresponding article namespaces.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

@Timeshifter, you're looking for a global filter for all talk pages?

Timeshifter (talkcontribs)

Yes, I am looking for a way to see all talk pages changes in my watchlist. But I only want to see the latest revisions for talk pages.

Timeshifter (talkcontribs)
Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

That would be visible through time.

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Different types of edits on wikidata

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Summary by 94rain
UglyGoat (talkcontribs)

For instance: if I want to see only added links, or only deleted labels.. Is this possible to make such a filter? I'm talking about watchlist mainly.

Jdforrester (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Sadly, it is not plausible to make such a filter without a huge amount of work. I looked into this for Commons, but given the way that the changes are stored by Wikibase, it's not possible to extend the recent changes filtering system on the database side to evaluate these diffs and categorise them, sorry.

I filed the wish as https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T216265 in case the experts in the Wikidata team can refute my concerns and say this happens to be easy.

Zuphilip (talkcontribs)

I second that request, also I am more interested in the opposite: changes in the statements. Currently, my watchlist is flooded by new labels for languages I don't care, but I am never sure whether maybe also some statements changed. Filtering just for the changes of statements would make my watchlist usabel again.

How can I watch not only a specific page, but also mentions to it?

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Summary by 94rain
Glauco.hass (talkcontribs)

The idea came up after seeing a soccer player transfer, from one club to another, that went unnoticed for several weeks. Usually the player page is the first to get updated and if you could see the club mentioned as having a transfer in or out, you could update the clubs pages as well.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Glauco.hass (talkcontribs)

Thanks, I will give it a shot right now.

Accessibility concerns on mobile devices

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104.249.230.124 (talkcontribs)

Virtually unusable on a mobile device. Screen jumping all over the place.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Switching to the mobile interface will display the old display, without the filters. If you force purposefully the desktop view on mobile, you will get the filters, which are, indeed, not mobile compatible.

Equinox (talkcontribs)

That's not the whole story. I use desktop only (no interest in mobile) and, while the new watchlist has some cool features, it certainly does "jump all over the place" as OP describes. I may be trying to click on items in the history, and suddenly the whole thing leaps away from me as a large JavaScript panel loads into place. I might even hit Rollback by accident, which is embarrassing. Can't you pre-load an empty white space to prevent things from jumping? (BTW this is true in other places too, like the late-loading Citations tab on Wiktionary.) My computer is old and slow but I shouldn't be punished for that.

Kaartic (talkcontribs)

I wouldn't suppose the developers wanted to punish the people with old and slow computers. I would suppose they would have missed this use case (it's really hard to develop software that works out-of-the-box for everyone!) . It might be of help to them if you could provide more information about your configuration in which you face this issue: OS, browser (with versions). They might use it to see if they could do something about it.

A temporary solution would be to switch to the old interface if that worked well for you. You could do that via Special:Preferences.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

What do you mean by "jump all over the place"?

Equinox (talkcontribs)

I mean that the page loads, and then further additional things load (like extra tabs), and as those things appear, the page "reflows" (like adding words in the middle of a paragraph) so that things I am trying to click on might continue to move to new positions. It would be better if the page didn't appear at all until everything was in place -- since having things jump away from under the mouse pointer is very frustrating.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I think I can visualize in my head what you mean, but a recording of your screen would help a lot.

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