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Here's a screenshot about what's happening everytime I try to create or edit a page. The blue bar appears, load until ~70% then freeze.

I tried to check what's happening with firefox & chrome dev tools. Everything seems fine, here's a sample of a request json response.

{"visualeditor":{"result":"success","notices":["<p>You have followed a link to a page that does not exist yet.\nTo create the page, start typing in the box below (see the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"\">help page</a> for more info).\nIf you are here by mistake, click your browser's <strong>back</strong> button.\n</p>"],"checkboxes":{"watch":"<input name=\"wpWatchthis\" type=\"checkbox\" value=\"1\" tabindex=\"1\" accesskey=\"w\" id=\"wpWatchthis\" />&#160;<label for='wpWatchthis' id='mw-editpage-watch' title=\"Add this page to your watchlist [w]\">Watch this page</label>"},"links":{"missing":["Cpage"],"extant":[]},"protectedClasses":"","basetimestamp":"20150813153540","starttimestamp":"20150813153541","oldid":0,"content":""}}

It's like he doesn't try to load the next page, the form for page edition / creation.

It's a private wiki. MediaWiki's 1.25.2. I got VisualEditor-REL1_25-c947b49.tar.gz and UniversalLanguageSelector-REL1_25-7661826.tar.gz. Here is my conf

### UniversalLanguageSelector (prérequis Parsoid)     # wfLoadExtension( 'UniversalLanguageSelector' );     require_once "$IP/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector/UniversalLanguageSelector.php";     $wgULSGeoService = false;     $wgULSEnable = false;     $wgULSIMEEnabled = false;

    ### VisualEditor     wfLoadExtension( 'VisualEditor' );     # require_once "$IP/extensions/VisualEditor/VisualEditor.php";

    $wgVisualEditorSupportedSkins = array( 'Vector', 'Apex', 'Monobook', 'Minerva' );

    # Enable by default for everybody     $wgDefaultUserOptions['visualeditor-enable'] = 1;

    # Don't allow users to disable it     # $wgHiddenPrefs[] = 'visualeditor-enable';

    # OPTIONAL: Enable VisualEditor's experimental code features     #$wgDefaultUserOptions['visualeditor-enable-experimental'] = 1;

    # URL to the Parsoid instance     # MUST NOT end in a slash due to Parsoid bug     $wgVisualEditorParsoidURL = 'http://localhost:8000';     $wgVisualEditorParsoidHTTPProxy = false;

    # Interwiki prefix to pass to the Parsoid instance     # Parsoid will be called as $url/$prefix/$pagename     $wgVisualEditorParsoidPrefix = 'wikidiff';

    # # Namespaces for VE     #$wgVisualEditorNamespaces = array_merge($wgContentNamespaces, array( NS_USER ));     $wgVisualEditorNamespaces = $wgContentNamespaces;

    # Timeout for HTTP requests to Parsoid in seconds, and for serializationcachetimeout     $wgVisualEditorParsoidTimeout = 200;     $wgVisualEditorSerializationCacheTimeout = 3600;

    # Réglage parsoid pour wiki privé     #     $wgSessionsInObjectCache = true;     $wgVisualEditorParsoidForwardCookies = true;

Anyone can tell me what the hell is wrong ? It's been two long days...

Winand (talkcontribs)

Did you resolve that issue somehow? When I turn on $wgResourceLoaderDebug VisualEditor loads. But without debug mode it freezes at 70%.

Jeroen N (talkcontribs)

This is happening to me more and more, to the point I've had to disable the visual editor altogether. The same goes for the 2017 wikitext editor. (talkcontribs)

I have the same problem. Without $wgResourceLoaderDebug it freeze by 70%. For testing, i disabled all other plugins. but it dosn't solve my problem. Any idea someone? (talkcontribs)

I had the same problem.

The root-cause was the VEForAll extension version not matching the mediawiki version.

I installed the correct version, and VE loaded without issue.

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renommer page Intitek industry en Intitek

Intitek (talkcontribs)
Agent utilisateur : Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:72.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/72.0

Bonjour, je travaille chez intitek et je souhaiterai pouvoir mettre correctement a jour la page wikipedia de l'entreprise. Pour cela j'aimerai renommer la page Intitek for industry (qui est une de nos filiales) en Intitek. J'ai la possibilité de modifier le contenu de la page mais pas son nom. Que puis-je faire et comment ?

Merci d'avance


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Judith 018 (talkcontribs)
Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

@QuimGil, does cawiki require editors to be autoconfirmed to be able to create a new article?

Qgil-WMF (talkcontribs)

I'm not sure but in any case @Judith 018 is an autoconfirmed user now.

Hola Judith, pots tornar a provar aquest mateix enllaç que has compartit? A mi em funciona.

Disculpes per no haver vist el teu missatge abans. Si tens més preguntes, pots fer-les al fòrum de la Viquipèdia en català:

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Redfiona99 (talkcontribs)

Hi, not sure if this is a VE problem or if it's a tool problem (if it's a tool problem, can anyone suggest where the best place to report this is?).

If you try to add a link from World Rowing, e.g. the 'add a citation' automatic option changes it to a link to just I'm not sure what's causing the behaviour. If you go in and edit it, you can change it to the correct one but that involves spotting that it's done that which might not be obvious to all users.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Redfiona99 (talkcontribs)

The |url= bit, because that should be the full long thing, not just the link to the home page.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Mvolz (WMF) (talkcontribs)

So yes, this is bad:

I'd guess it's a problem with redirection; zotero probably isn't pretending to be a browser well enough, and the website is thus redirecting us to their homepage, which is what we're then scraping, instead of the actual page desired.

The only solution for this to actually run a headless browser, which we actually used to do, but stopped for security reasons - so no real solution to this except for using the user-entered URL instead of the scraped URL; which we stopped doing for security reasons as well, but I'm considering changing back to using the user entered URL and manually trying to remove tracking IDs from it.

I've created a task for it: task T242089, but one worry I have with this, is that in this particular instance is that it masks that the metadata for this url actually came from and not the intended URL.

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Andrestrand (talkcontribs)
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Amire80 (talkcontribs)

Is anyone using the "Visual edit: switched" tag?

I think that it was made for researching the reasons why people switch from editing in VE to editing in wiki syntax. Is it actually used for this? Is anyone exploring edits with this tag on any wiki?

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I don't think it was a research-driven tag. I think it exists to let the devs know where to debug problems (e.g., was this mess created purely in the visual mode, or could the problem be during the conversion, or could the editor have typed wikitext manually?)

Amire80 (talkcontribs)

Yes, that's what I meant: debugging is a kind of research :)

So is it actually done? Do developers ever really look at it?

TheDJ (talkcontribs)

Not proactively. It is used retroactively when people report bugs to deduce if a wikitext/VE switch might have been at play.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

They did occasionally, when the tag was new, but they were looking for symptoms of Parsoid-related problems rather than feature-related problems. Working on desktop VE hasn't officially been the team's assignment for almost two years now, and I doubt that anyone looked at these tags for some time before then.

Based on comments on wiki, the most compelling reason for an experienced wikitext user to switch from wikitext to visual mode was editing tables.

Amire80 (talkcontribs)


It may be a good idea to go back to and check what are the reasons to doing it now. They may be different :)

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Summary by Epìdosis

VisualEditor wasn't used.

Epìdosis (talkcontribs)

It seems that VE inserts wrongly the tag as </br> instead of <br/>. Examples: most of these corrections involve tags added through VE. Thank you!

TheDJ (talkcontribs)

Nope. See they were added by this user, and the edit doesn't have the VE tag on it. The user likely made this mistake manually or copy pasted from another resource that does it incorrectly or something.

Epìdosis (talkcontribs)

I've said most of these corrections: all the cases regarding Greek mythology are due to VE (, , , , ... and tens of other cases).

Jagulin (talkcontribs)

This may be an old problem, but from the examples @GuroneseDoc may be able to share some insights on what happened. Copy-paste is not unlikely. I see that the "tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit" may indicate that more than one edit method and I'm not sure if VE was one of them.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

VE was not used in any of those edits. When it is, the Tag: will say "Visual edit". If you make an edit on the mobile site, using the mobile visual editor, then the edit will be marked with all of the relevant pieces: "Tags: Mobile edit, Mobile web edit, Visual edit".

Oliveleaf4 (talkcontribs)
Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hi, Oliveleaf. Could you tell me what, exactly, you did during that edit (as much as you can remember)?

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Pourquoi les pages de l'espace Wikipédia: ne peuvent-elles donc pas être modifié avec l'éditeur visuel ?

Nemo Le Poisson (talkcontribs)

Je remarque que tout ou une très grand partie de l'espace de nom Wikipédia: ne peut être modifié avec l'éditeur visuel et ce sur le Wikipédia en français mais aussi sur les autres.

Je ne comprends pas très bien pourquoi, l'éditeur gérant maintenant très bien les modèles et tout le reste. Cela m'aiderait vraiment, étant un féru de ce dernier.

Merci d'avance,

Nemo Le Poisson (talkcontribs)

I notice that all or a very large part of the [[Wikipedia:]] namespace can not be modified with the visual editor and this on the Wikipedia in French but also on the others.

I do not understand why, the editor now manages the templates and everything else. It would really help me, being a fan of the latter.

Thanks in advance,

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2804:14D:4C8F:8382:1928:5394:684B:BB65 (talkcontribs)
Agente de utilizador: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/79.0.3945.88 Safari/537.36

Como que faz pra deixar uma tabela colorida?

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