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Wolbo (talkcontribs)

How can you reuse an existing reference via VE? Adding a reference is easy but I cannot figure out how to add a <ref name> to it so it can be used in other locations of the article.

Switched to VE because for some reason the edit summary of wikiEd does not accept any input today and I'm impressed with many aspects of the editor. It seems to improve every time I try it.

Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hey @Wolbo :) Assuming you mean "on the English Wikipedia", you can just click Cite, then choose the Re-use tab, and click on the ref you're interested into. No need to add ref names. Glad you're liking it! Let us know if there's anything else we can assist you with,

Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Oh, and forgot a cool thing: that dialog will remember which of the 3 tabs you used the last time, so re-using even more references is super-easy right now. HTH!

Wolbo (talkcontribs)

Thanks, that's very straightforward and easy (once you know where to look!). With the old wiki-editor my normal workflow ('edit source') is to go to the existing ref, select & copy the ref name and paste it into the new location which is why in VE I was looking for the ref name or reuse function in the edit function of the existing ref.

Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Copy/pasting also work. Click on the ref number in brackets, CTRL-C, go to new location, CTRL-V, save, voilà.

Wolbo (talkcontribs)

In terms of 'anything else' .... in the VE edit summary screen I was expecting the enter key to save the edit (and summary) and exit the summary screen but it appears to do nothing. In my view it is easier to hit enter than to click the save button with the mouse because A) that is the way it works in the old wiki editor and B) the editor is already using the keyboard to type the edit summary.

Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)

For this, you can see this task. Could be fixed if/when T52961 is implemented.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hello

Yes, you can reuse an existing reference via VE. When you use the "cite" button, you have three tabs: automatic, manual and reuse. This third tab lists all references already used in the article.

Concerning the improvements, yes, VE has changed a lot! To give you an example, I'm currently finishing (with my volunteer account) to write an article on French Wikipedia. I've creating it only by using VE, and I was able to deal with all templates or setup requirements we have for Good Articles vote. :)

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the shortcut alt-shift-v has double seizure

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Nimruth (talkcontribs)
  1. call unsighted versions
  2. call VisualEditor
Stryn (talkcontribs)

I can confirm this.

Take a look at https://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testing_something_2 and try alt-shift-v. It doesn't open VE, but selects the "newest version" tab instead.

On a page where is not the "newest version" tab, alt-shift-v opens VE.

Nimruth (talkcontribs)

I tried it at the link, but it didn't work. I pressed alt-shift-v while i have been at the "read-page". What happend? It opens VE.

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Cannot enter change summary, field loses focus

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Summary by Quiddity (WMF)
89.146.39.37 (talkcontribs)

Issue

In the save page dialog, when I try to click the Summary input field, the field immediately loses focus. Instead, focus is put on the article text in the background (I can type there while the dialog is open).

Steps to reproduce:

  • Open any page and make a change through the VisualEditor.
  • Hit save button -> popup opens
  • Click the summary input text field

Specs

  • Chrome: 43.0.2357.81 m
  • Platform: Windows 8.1 Pro
  • MediaWiki: 1.25.1
  • Skin: Vector
173.58.117.59 (talkcontribs)

Currently experiencing the same issue, has anyone found a fix for this?

71.93.147.139 (talkcontribs)

Found a temporary fix for the time being: when the save dialog comes up, open up the developer tools in your browser and go to the Console (F12 -> Console in Google Chrome) and enter "document.querySelector('input').focus()"

Once you click on the text box again, it'll be in focus. Wonder if we can get a permanent fix/solution anytime soon, because this is a pretty big inconvenience right now.

Quiddity (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Note: Possibly Windows only? I cannot reproduce this, on Ubuntu, using Chromium 37 or Firefox 38, at my sandbox on this wiki.

Note2: Whilst the summary box is open, the only way I can get my cursor to focus on the document behind, is to use the [Tab] key.

217.151.130.120 (talkcontribs)

Debian\Ubuntu, MediaWiki 1.25.1, Visual Editor REL1_25, Vector skin REL1_25 Safari, IE, Google Chrome - the same issue :\

106.186.104.137 (talkcontribs)

This bug really hurts the usability of VisualEditor. I'm about to deploy it in our corporate wiki, but I'm hesitant because I know I'll have an unending stream of user complaints.

Things like this should be on the top of the list to fix!

Quiddity (WMF) (talkcontribs)

This issue is tracked at Phab:T106419. Thanks for the feedback.

106.186.104.137 (talkcontribs)

A hacky patch:

--- extensions/VisualEditor/modules/ve-mw/ui/dialogs/ve.ui.MWSaveDialog.js.old	2015-09-02 09:51:37.435374937 +0900
+++ extensions/VisualEditor/modules/ve-mw/ui/dialogs/ve.ui.MWSaveDialog.js	2015-09-02 09:46:50.733371937 +0900
@@ -480,6 +480,7 @@
 					)
 				);
 			} );
+                        this.editSummaryInput.focus();
 		}, this );
 };

All it does is add a focus to the end of the getSetupProcess function call identical to the call in getReadyProcess, which seems to fix it with both recent chrome and firefox on windows and linux. It doesn't seem to be the correct solution, but it makes it work for now without any obvious problems.

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New thing suggest

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Summary by Jdforrester (WMF)

Requested in T55590.

Qwertyxp2000 (talkcontribs)

I suggest another part of "insert" for "insert asbox" and "insert ambox".

TheDJ (talkcontribs)

Those are very specific uses, they might be better developed as gadgets that integrate with VE in my opinion.

Jdforrester (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Agreed for this suggestion in particular; note that there is a suggestion in bugzilla:53590 that we prompt the user with contextually-appropriate common templates when they click "insert", which is an alternative direction.

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106.186.104.137 (talkcontribs)

The a "VisualEditor demo page/sandbox" at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor:Test just shows the "subst:VisualEditor:Test/Text" tag rather then actually having a visual editor available.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

That's a little weird. Perhaps User:Jdforrester (WMF) will know what Steinsplitterbot is trying to do.

Jdforrester (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Odd. We should probably just retire that sandbox, though; "VisualEditor:" isn't even a namespace any more.

Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I actually liked that page, showing people everything they could do with VE.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

We could rename it and replace the content with Help:Sample page.

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Dave Braunschweig (talkcontribs)

VE does not accept the entry of relative subpage links. In particular, it will not recognize links entered as /subpage or /subpage/. Subpage links must be entered as full links, which defeats the purpose of having relative links that don't break when pages are moved or renamed.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

User:Dave Braunschweig, are you looking only for this? https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Whatamidoing_(WMF)/Sandbox&diff=1352736&oldid=1319573

Dave Braunschweig (talkcontribs)

Not exactly. That appears to be a named reference rather than a subpage. Take a look at https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/IT_Fundamentals for examples. If those subpage links are edited with VisualEditor, they become absolute links rather than relative links.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

That's just a link to a subpage: I need a [[/named|named]] reference

(Ignore the contents of the text; it was written for a different round of testing.)

Dave Braunschweig (talkcontribs)

Yes, although the naming of the link isn't necessary when entered as /named/ . It displays correctly without the slashes. There still does not seem to be a way to enter subpage links as relative references.

The relative references are important when the base page is moved. If relative links have been used, everything continues to link correctly. If absolute links are used, all links to subpages must be updated.

This isn't a big deal on Wikipedia, but has significant impact on Wikibooks and Wikiversity, where subpages are the basis for most content.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Thanks for the reply. I think I need to you explain what "does not accept" means. If I open VisualEditor, open the link inspector, and type "/subpage" into the link tool's box, and press Return, then it makes a link to /subpage. Is that not working for you, or is that not what you want?

Dave Braunschweig (talkcontribs)

Sorry, you are correct. It does ultimately work. But it appears not to work while creating the link because it shows up as red rather than blue on an existing subpage. Is it possible to have VE display the link as blue during the edit for existing subpages?

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I looked at it for a bit, and it's probably a bit more complicated than I thought. I've filed a bug for it, but it may take longer to fix than I had originally hoped.

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Mardetanha (talkcontribs)

Recently I started to give visual editor another try, till now development and experience was quite good but I can not add non-english access and review date, for example here in iran we use our own calendar (and of course many other countries also have their own) but sadly I can't add citation to local calendar. can we have that fixed ?

Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hello @Mardetanha: please see Citoid#Access_date_is_formatted_differently_on_my_wiki.

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Milkyway22 (talkcontribs)

As written in the subject.

Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hey @Milkyway22, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70429 is one of the related tasks asking for it to be possible. HTH.

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Is there a way to add a series of special characters specific to a wiki?

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James (talkcontribs)

For the ANG wikis, I would like to know if it's possible to edit the visual editor so that the runic alphabet is available, along with a series of special characters (Ǣǣ, Œœ, etc).

Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hey @James, I think VisualEditor/Special characters has the instructions you're looking for. Best,

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