VisualEditor/Feedback

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Post your feedback about using the visual editor.

If you have never provided feedback before, you can learn how to do it effectively. If you are reporting a problem directly on this page, please include your web browser, computer operating system, and wiki skin (usually Vector, sometimes Monobook). The feedback tool within the visual editor will include your user agent details instead.

You can use this page to tell the Wikimedia developers your ideas and issues about using the visual editor: this is the only feedback page actively monitored by WMF staff. The Contributors team welcomes your feedback and ideas, especially on user interface decisions and the priorities for adding new features. All comments are read, in any language, but personal replies are not guaranteed: the team will try and go through reports here at least once a week. Need more attention? Report directly in Phabricator. Please note that the Wikimedia Foundation does not provide support for installing VisualEditor on third-party wikis. Please report bugs involving Parsoid at Talk:Parsoid instead.

You may also want to read a guide to optimize the visual editor's experience on your site, which details work necessary on the community side (such as translating or setting up citation systems).

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DavidK93 (talkcontribs)

For me, one of the greatest benefits of the VisualEditor has been the "Cite" button; previously, I found citing my sources to be a very tedious task, and I often just included inline links to cited websites for other editors to clean up, rather than create properly formatted citations. With the Cite button, I'm able to very quickly create appropriate citations. However, the Cite button creates all citations using the yyyy-mm-dd format, while some articles possess templates specifying the use of different date formats, such as mdy or dmy. Could the Cite button's functionality be enhanced to detect such templates if present, and use the corresponding date format?

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

That's unfortunately not feasible.

It might be possible for the CS1 modules to detect date-formatting templates, and then adjust all of the date formats in an article accordingly, but, in the meantime, you can add the "df" parameter to each template, and then set it to dmy for dmy articles or mdy for mdy articles, and that will do the trick when you save. @Trappist the monk is always the person to ask about what the CS1 modules can do.

Trappist the monk (talkcontribs)

You know, I just hate this editor. Tapping the escape key should not irrevocably abandon previous edits. Now I have to write it all over again.

We tried reading article source looking for {{use dmy dates}}. If found we would adjust cs1|2 date rendering accordingly. Worked as I recall for relatively few cs1|2 templates in an article but did not work in articles with large numbers of cs1|2 templates. The discussion about that is here: en:Help talk:Citation Style 1/Archive 10#Automatic ISO conversion. That conversation is where we developed |df=.

DavidK93 (talkcontribs)

Thanks. That goes somewhat beyond my knowledge of markup, so I guess I'll just leave it for the cleanup bots, which seem to be handling it well already.

Reply to "Date Format in Citations"

Media search suggestions fail randomly

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NH (talkcontribs)

Open a page for editing. Place the cursor in the text. Click Insert > Media.

Try typing various beginnings of sensible search term snippets in the search field without hitting Enter, for instance "ark" (which should match names containing the word "Arkansas", among other things).

Sometimes the "throbber" (progress indicator) first appears during typing, and then relevant matches are shown. But sometimes the throbber is not shown, and no results either, but only the text "No results found.", although there are certainly lots of media with names matching the text snippet currently in the text box.

You will have to try this out yourself a few times, with different text snippets, because the behaviour is erratic and random. I have a suspicion the severity of the problem is related to the quality of the Internet connection used, but I haven't been able to verify this.

(Safari 11.0.3)

Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)

@NH, hello, sorry for the delay. Is this still happening?

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I found that if I add another letter to the search term (maybe backspace over the last letter and re-type it), it re-searches for me. Does that work for you?

NH (talkcontribs)

Yes, this is still happening.

Adding another letter, or hitting backspace often makes it re-search. This re-search can either result in "No results found." (although there might be search suggestions in next attempt with the same letters) or search suggestions.

The problem seems somehow to depend upon the time interval between keystrokes. If I type very slowly (one keystroke in every 3 seconds), then there is always new search suggestions for each added letter. If I type faster, it sometimes gets stuck showing "No results found." although the same letters do produce search suggestions when typed at a slow rate.

(Same problem in Firefox 59.0.2 and Safari 11.1)

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)
NH (talkcontribs)

I think it could be different symptoms of the same underlying problem: Whether you get any search suggestions or not depends upon how and at what speed the text is entered into the search field.

NH (talkcontribs)

Let me add: Other search fields on Wikipedia, Wikimedia Commons etc do not behave this way.

Reply to "Media search suggestions fail randomly"
BEATRIZ CAVIA (talkcontribs)
Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Reply to "no puedo publicar una entrada"

Προσθήκη χρώματος σε κουτάκι πίνακα

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Summary by Whatamidoing (WMF)
ΜάκηςΚεφαλονίτης (talkcontribs)
Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Reply to "Προσθήκη χρώματος σε κουτάκι πίνακα"

لا يتم نشر الصفحة عندما أقوم بالضغط على نشر الصفحة

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Az313 (talkcontribs)
Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Reply to "لا يتم نشر الصفحة عندما أقوم بالضغط على نشر الصفحة"
Bibke (talkcontribs)
Reply to "Le titre est faute"

Bild, Försökte ladda upp bild på Nora men det går inte bra

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ClaesRignell (talkcontribs)
Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Reply to "Bild, Försökte ladda upp bild på Nora men det går inte bra"

Feedback about the citation editor

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Summary by Whatamidoing (WMF)
Redfiona99 (talkcontribs)

Hi, I was wondering if there either was a way of adding special characters (e.g. letters with umlauts) into the title boxes (other than cutting and pasting) or if a way of doing this was on the to do list.

Thanks.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

This is on the to-do list for templates. In the meantime, you can cut-and-paste characters, or look for a special character inserter in your web browser. For example, on a Mac, it's at the end of the browser's "Edit" menu and is called "Emojis & Symbols".

For non-templated refs (Cite > Manual > Basic), the special character panel is available within the dialog box.

Reply to "Feedback about the citation editor"
Summary by Whatamidoing (WMF)

Not software feedback. (The uploader has figured out how to nominate the image for deletion at Commons.)

Laura ArPar (talkcontribs)

Moderately severe UI problem (with quick fix)

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Sparkie82 (talkcontribs)

I like VE, but it's terribly slow on my old laptop, so I use source editing for quick changes, editing code, or editing large pages. But I've enabled VE in my preferences for editing tables and such. Here's the problem: For ten years or so, I've had to click a link that says, "Edit" to edit the source page of articles. But with VE enabled, "Edit" no longer starts the source editor, it launches VE instead. With years of unconsciously training my brain to click "edit" for source editing, I often find myself clicking the wrong link in the section/page links ( Edit | Source Edit ), and then having to wait 15-30 seconds for VE to load and then cancel out of VE and go back to click "Source Edit". Also, if you change the preferences setting back and forth to enable/disable VE, the function of links and the terminology changes back and forth. Very frustrating!

Quick fix:

Change the system message(s) for the link that launches VE from "Edit" to "Visual Edit" (or "Visual Editor"), so that the page and section links look like this: "Visual Edit | Source Edit" That way it's stable and unambiguous as to what you'll get when you click a link irrespective of whether the VE pref is enabled or not. ~~~~

Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Thanks for your feedback. Based on your use case, it seems to me that the most convenient solution, at least at the English Wikipedia, would be taking advantage of the VisualEditor/Single_edit_tab system. Select "Always give me the source editor" in your preferences, and have only one tab that goes to the source editor; you can switch to the visual one from the toolbar button only when you need it.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Sparkie82, have you tried this? If you almost always want to use the older wikitext editors, then you can have that be the only option displayed. Then, when you want to edit a table, you open the old wikitext editor and click the pencil icon (far right corner of the 2010 WikiEditor's blue toolbar) to switch into the visual mode.

Sparkie82 (talkcontribs)

Yes, that works much better. Thank you.