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V2 Feedback: AronMan

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Summary by PPelberg (WMF)
  • phab:T252084: Consider adding header to username suggestion list
  • phab:T252445: Consider changing the presentation of the visual mode's editing toolbar
  • phab:T252083: Treat links to user pages differently than normal wikilinks
Aron Manning (talkcontribs)

Version 2.0 testing feedback

TASK #4: What are your initial impressions of the tool? What stands out to you? Do you find something particularly eye-catching? Confusing?

Clean, pleasant design.


TASK #5: Could you figure out how to write and style a comment in the tool's visual mode do so? What did you think of this experience?

Easily, using the icons on the right. On a wide screen the styling buttons are quite far on the right edge from the area where my mouse is typically (above the text). What comes to my mind is that these are on the left in reddit and gmail.


TASK #6: Could you figure out how to ping someone who has commented in the section you are replying in? What did you think of this experience?

Easily, using @ key. On second thought Flow has a specific button for it which I miss.


TASK #7: Could you figure out how to ping someone who has not commented in the section you are replying in? What did you think of this experience?

I had to guess typing more of the intended name will eventually offer that name. This is the best functionality imo, but some hint that this functionality exists might be helpful.


TASK #8: Could you figure out how to edit a ping so someone different is notified? What did you think of this experience?

I've clicked on the name and used the visual link editor. Things got difficult from there.

  • Having "User:" in the link was surprising and I might have edited that part by mistake.
  • Users without userpage are not offered by the look-ahead search.
  • I've chosen a userpage, but the link text did not update, I had to find out how to do that too.

Tl;dr: the visual link editor is not suitable for this, however, such editor might not be necessary. The ping can be simply deleted and redone. Might be safer to disable the link editor for pings.

TASK #9: Could you figure out how to see the comment you were writing in the visual mode, in the source mode before posting the comment to the talk page? What – if any – part the wikitext looked different from how you expected?

Yes. The interface is familiar from GitHub. The wikitext looked as I expected.


TASK #10: Could you figure out how to post the comment you had written in Tasks #1 - #9 to the talk page?

Easily. The terms message and the watch page checkbox is thoughtfully positioned.


TASK #11: Does the diff you created by posting a comment look as you expected? What – if anything – were you surprised to see?

Yes.


OVERALL: If there are other comments or questions you would like to make the team aware of, please write them here.

Generally, this tool is awesome. A "major leap".

PPelberg (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Thank you for giving the tool a try and sharing this feedback, @Aron Manning.

Two things for you:

  1. Some follow up "Questions"
  2. "Tickets" for the issues you raised that are immediately clear to me

Questions

On second thought Flow has a specific button for it which I miss.

Can you say a bit more here? Are you able to pinpoint what about Flow's "👤" icon you miss? How it serves as a reminder the @ functionality exists? Clicking "👤" is easier than typing @? Other things entirely?

I had to guess typing more of the intended name will eventually offer that name. This is the best functionality imo, but some hint that this functionality exists might be helpful.

Good spot. To what extent do you think what phab:T252084 is describing is the hint you had in mind?


Tickets

Please comment on these tasks if they do not accurately and exhaustively describe the issue(s) you experienced.

On a wide screen the styling buttons are quite far on the right edge from the area where my mouse is typically (above the text).

phab: T252445


Things got difficult from there. Having "User:" in the link was surprising and I might have edited that part by mistake. Users without userpage are not offered by the look-ahead search.I've chosen a userpage, but the link text did not update, I had to find out how to do that too.

You've made these issues wonderfully clear. I've represented them in the ticket where we are discussing different approaches to the username link inspector behavior: phab:T252083.


Aron Manning (talkcontribs)

Clicking "👤" is easier than typing @?

Exactly this and if there was a button for it, that would be a hint this feature exists. Whether the user icon "👤" or a snail "@" icon would be better, I can't tell. For me both would do.

To what extent do you think what phab:T252084 is describing is the hint you had in mind?

Very well. I've added more details in a comment.

You've made these issues wonderfully clear. I've represented them in the ticket...

Thank you for your continued work and communication with the community!

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