Topic on 2017 wikitext editor/Feedback

I enabled the new wikitext editor. It's mostly okay, but a bit slower to start up than the old one.

One problem I've had: it massively interferes with the workflow that admins use on English Wikipedia's RFPP (request for page protection).

The new editor does not show the editing notice that appears at the top of the page, which includes the "Administrator instructions" which you use to work out what RFPP template you include to basically say that the request has been closed (either successfully or not). Not being able to see this edit notice is a problem. If you then go and find the administrator instructions, the text you copy and paste then gets "escaped" in the editor (with code and nowiki tags).

This turns an otherwise simple administrative process into a rather long-winded one. Is there any way of turning off the new wikitext editor on specific pages (like RFPP or other admin/process pages) until these issues have been fixed?

Now, that's a username I hadn't read in a while. Thanks for stopping by to leave feedback. When I edit en:Wikipedia:Requests for page protection (not just a single section), I see both an edit notice that recommends following instructions (linked), and some commented example code at the top of the page to generate requests. If I open the linked instructions in a different tab I just land at en:Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#Instructions. So if I copy the examples from there, or from the commented lines, and paste them, there are no nowiki tags added. (However, pasting with CTRL-SHIFT-V prevents any tags from being added).

(Hey Elitre! I'm still lurking around!)

So, the page I'm looking at is Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection/Administrator_instructions . As an administrator, closing a request requires you to add an indented response using (e.g. "{{RFPP|s|one week}}" to say it has been semi-protected for a week). For the common ones, admins who frequent RFPP tend to know them (s for semi-protect, p for full-protect) but for the less commonly used ones like template protection (tp), extended confirmed (ec) and pending changes (pd) it is pretty common to look them up on the Administrator Instructions page above , which is helpfully transcluded into the edit page as an edit notice.

When I tried to answer an RFPP request the other day, it took me about 5x longer than usual because the new editor didn't show me the edit notice, and when I copied the text from the Administrator instructions page, it came through with code and nowiki tags embedded.

In general, I actually like the new wikitext editor, especially the integration with Citoid. Being able to just paste a link in and get a pretty comprehensive ref tag added is really nice.

Ah, "not just a single section". As an admin, responding to a request, generally I edit the single section so as to not edit conflict with other admins closing requests on RFPP.

The link to the admin's instructions could be added to en:Template:Editnotices/Page/Wikipedia:Requests for page protection: and if the examples there were formatted in plain text, like the ones at Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#Instructions, you'd be fine, because the editnotice is visible even in section editing, so you can right-click to open it in different tab. I mean, the editnotice that says "Please ensure you follow these instructions before making a request. ..." is the only one I see also in the old wikitext editor when editing the requests page? (PS: I think that the section editing to avoid conflict thing has actually been a myth for years now, but that's something for later.)

The admin instructions (specifically https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:RFPP/codes) are transcluded in the edit notice you link to. See "RFPP administratior notation templates [show]". I'll happily change the formatting to plain text in that template, but there's still an issue here with the editnotice not displaying when editing a section using the new wikitext editor. It shows when you use the old one.

Not in my browser. However, we may be talking about https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T154204 . That's a case I can reproduce.

Mere mortals like us see this:

Please ensure you follow these instructions before making a request. In particular, please place new requests AT THE BOTTOM.Please notify Wikipedia talk:Twinkle and Cyberpower678 of any proposed changes to section headers or your edit may mess up requests for page protection using Twinkle or archiving by Cyberbot I.

But Template:Editnotices/Page/Wikipedia:Requests for page protection has some content that is only shown to admins, and I'm guessing that this isn't shown. @Tom Morris, is it failing to show the admin-only content?