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Previous discussion was archived at Talk:VisualEditor/Archive 1 on 2015-09-01.

Problems with VisualEditor compatibility in mobile devices when I change to desktop mode from the mobile view

Rodney Araujo (talkcontribs)

Hello, in mobile devices, when I change to desktop mode in a browser, at the time of editing with VisualEditor, it shows a notice that says: You are using a browser that is unofficially compatible with this editor. Could you solve this problem? Thanks.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

The desktop software is not designed to work on a mobile device. It may behave strangely or crash unexpectedly. It is appropriate to warn editors about this risk.

Rodney Araujo (talkcontribs)

I want desktop software to be designed for mobile devices too, especially tablets, because tablets are close to being computers.

Reply to "Problems with VisualEditor compatibility in mobile devices when I change to desktop mode from the mobile view" (talkcontribs)

Hello. When I made the edit on Help:Export, VisualEditor happened to remove much text that I did not actually remove while editing.

I did not realize it after saving. (talkcontribs)

Apparently, the same happened to the editor on that page prior to me, removing a similar amount of bytes from the page.

I suggest making the source editor default again to prevent such glitches that appear like vandalism. (talkcontribs)

Apparently, the same bug also happened to editors on Extension:MobileFrontend.

The edit summaries suggest good-faith edits, but much text has been removed in edits tagged as visual edit.

Shirayuki (talkcontribs)

Use the source editor instead. (talkcontribs)

Yes, I will. Thanks.

But expectedly, people tend to use the default, which on this site is the Visual Editor that apparently is unstable and causes good-faith users to unintentionally vandalize pages.

I suggest the developers to look into it.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I assume that this is due to VisualEditor's lack of support for Extension:Translate.

Shirayuki, do you think that page needs an Edit notice or other warning about it?

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Some pages really cannot be edit in VisualEditor?

AlexeySlw (talkcontribs)

I use MediaWiki 1.31 and Parsoid 0.9.0.

I restored Russian Wikipedia from dump and have an error opening some pages in VisualEditor. For example, Россия/Russia, США/USA, Япония/Japan and other countries.

It may be my mistake, but these are the same pages that "protected" on Wikipedia (of course, I didn't check all the pages on Wikipedia, just those I interested in).

So, the question is: did I do something wrong or some pages really cannot be edit in VisualEditor?

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I can open w:ru:Россия in the visual editor. It's a large page (534,630 bytes, at the moment). Do you have problems with large pages?

Reply to "Some pages really cannot be edit in VisualEditor?" (talkcontribs)

should be "run without MediaWiki" instead of "run without without MediaWiki"

Majavah (talkcontribs)

fixed, thanks!

BoldLuis (talkcontribs)

In VisualEditor would exist the option: Insert > New Section, if you go to the end of the section, bellow which you want to put the new one. --

Another way is using a floating element and put it in the place where the new section is going to be. Or simply, click in a button "New section" and click in the place of the text where the new section is going to be (then would appear a floating bar with the text. "Is it in the correct place?. [Yes] / [No]" (in any case, writting a text in the place would disappear this floating bar / message).

BoldLuis (talk) 13:48, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Do you know how to change a line into a section heading? It's the dropdown menu towards the start of the toolbar, where it usually says "Paragraph" (for plain text).

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I should be able to name references

Summary by Whatamidoing (WMF)
Psiĥedelisto (talkcontribs)

I love the VE, I use it all the time. I've written extremely complicated, long articles with it, including en:2channel, en:Bureau of Immigration Bicutan Detention Center, en:West Coast Customs, and so on. I hate switching to source editing. This might seem bizarre given I work as a computer programmer, but it is what it is. I would like to be able to give my references more descriptive names than :1, :0, et cetera, as sometimes I unfortunately need to switch to source editing and stick a ref in a template or something. Is this planned?

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)
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50 million edits in the visual editor on Wikipedia

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)
BoldLuis (talkcontribs)
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Suggestion to put signature command on toolbar

Omda4wady (talkcontribs)

I suggest we change location of "signature command" from drop menu to be as a button on VE main toolbar

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Their theory in the past has been that wherever you find a tool in the visual editor, it's always in the same place.

You might be interested in the upcoming Talk pages project/replying tool. It auto-signs replies.

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Conflicting keyboard shortcuts

Summary by Whatamidoing (WMF)
AhmadF.Cheema (talkcontribs)

The keyboard shortcut for editing a page through the VisualEditor is Alt+ Shift+V. The same key combination happens to be used for the Show changes button in WikiEditor. Therefore, while in source editing mode, pressing this shortcut causes the switch to Visual editing instead of showing changes in Source editing.

This couldn't have been by design, could it?

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I can't reproduce this on my Mac in Safari (the equivalent keyboard shortcut does nothing). Can you tell me your web browser and computer operating system? Also, does it matter whether the cursor is inside the editing box (rather than outside of it, e.g., in the search box)?

AhmadF.Cheema (talkcontribs)

Windows10 1903, Chrome v79.0.3945.130 (64-bit). Placement of cursor makes no difference, checked at all locations (header, footer, sidebar, preview area etc.).

On Firefox v72.0.1 - there, the keyboard shortcut toggles focus between the two Show changes and Visual editing buttons, probably the same as Safari.

On Microsoft Edge - Usually the Visual editing button is given preference, unless the cursor is specifically on the two: "Pages transcluded onto the current version..." and "This page is a member of ... hidden category..." lines, then the Show changes button is activated.

On Chromium-based Edge beta v80.0.361.33 - the same thing happens as in Chrome.

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Force Line Breaks in VE

Summary by Whatamidoing (WMF)
Konjurer (talkcontribs)

Is there a way to force line breaks in the VE? The editor does not place any space after a bulleted list and it does not look very good.

ESanders (WMF) (talkcontribs)

No, empty linebreaks will be removed by Parsoid no matter where they are in the document. Line spacing should be the responsibility of the skin's CSS, not the user.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Parsoid is no longer removing line breaks.

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