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Feedback, see my User:Page012:39, 29 January 2015
Modern skin support318:26, 28 January 2015
Set the focus to the input field when adding template ?118:19, 28 January 2015
VisualEditor has odd text-input behavior and generally doesn't save edits102:25, 28 January 2015
adding external links on a article102:23, 28 January 2015
Is it possible to enable VE on a certain page?202:21, 28 January 2015
Table settings102:15, 28 January 2015
feedback016:02, 26 January 2015
Set the focus to the input field when adding template 016:26, 25 January 2015
VisualEditor not loaded514:18, 15 January 2015
Doesn't work at all for me 422:37, 13 January 2015
narrow field of the row parameter223:20, 12 January 2015
Find and 'dismiss' find522:56, 12 January 2015
Relative Subpage Links122:55, 12 January 2015
It lags too much123:10, 10 January 2015
Templatedata in Templates?204:12, 10 January 2015
"Save" at the end of the toolbar009:27, 9 January 2015
terrible title in the form of saving the page417:38, 8 January 2015
= in TD321:01, 6 January 2015
tag syntaxhighlight012:43, 4 January 2015
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Feedback, see my User:Page

First in German, (my native language, sorry/google-translated:

  • Ich sehe, es fehlt ein Befehl "Zelle einfügen"/I see it is missing an "Insert cell"-command.
  • Wie kriege ich die Spalten sortierbar/How do I get the columns sortable?
  • Eine fertige Vorlage zur Quelleneinfügung mit Platzhaltern: Sinnvoll/A finished template to insert source wildcard: It makes sense?, [1]. Greetings, THANXALOT for doing this!!!
91.19.142.24612:39, 29 January 2015

Modern skin support

Are there plans to enable Visual Editor for Modern skin?

Bezik (talk)13:07, 24 January 2015

Unfortunately the Modern skin isn't supported any more. It's possible that a volunteer might build this support, though.

Jdforrester (WMF) (talk)16:51, 24 January 2015

Thank you for response. Could you outline a roadmap for such support, which steps should be done by a volonteer developer to adopt Visual Editor for additional skin? (E. g., which php sources need to be extended, how many css should be rewritten, etc.?)

Bezik (talk)10:14, 25 January 2015

How much work is hard to tell, but you would need to add something like http://git.wikimedia.org/blob/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FVisualEditor/d64aa82c4a1436cb13995729c390906c67235117/modules%2Fve-mw%2Finit%2Fstyles%2Fve.init.mw.ViewPageTarget-monobook.css

But then modern specific instead of mono book specific.

And then register that one the root VisualEditor.php file.

TheDJ (Not WMF) (talkcontribs)18:26, 28 January 2015
 
 
 

Set the focus to the input field when adding template ?

You've being doing an excellent job in the last months. Thanks. I really like the possibility to add templates directly when typing "{{" in visual editor. But I would appreciate if you could manage to set directly the focus to the corresponding input field appearing on the screen. Now, I need to move my mouse and click in the field to be able to start typing the name of the template I want to add (using FF38.0a1). Thanks.

Afernand74 (talk)16:26, 25 January 2015

It seems to do this very shortly, and then it looses the focus again. I have filed ticket: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87777

TheDJ (Not WMF) (talkcontribs)18:19, 28 January 2015
 

VisualEditor has odd text-input behavior and generally doesn't save edits

I've gotten VisualEditor installed and running with Parsoid, or I think so anyway. But when I go to edit a page, it loads for a moment, then lets me edit, however the behavior is extremely erratic; Typing in text will put it all on one line regardless of breaks, using Enter usually puts the break above the line you're on, and saving changes results in a blank page with an odd character for each time you hit Enter.

Any advice or ideas on what I've done wrong here? I'm on the latest mediawiki version. Thanks for the app guys, if I can get VE working it'll be fantastic!

75.176.49.18816:38, 14 January 2015

I wish that I knew how to solve your problems.  :-/

Has the situation changed since you posted last week?

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)02:25, 28 January 2015
 

adding external links on a article

The visual editor of Wikipedia is very good on all aspects but while mentioning any external links I've not got any option to attach a label to the link.

Arupneo2 (talk)20:38, 20 January 2015

Type the label first. Then select it and add a link.

Alternatively, if you add a link (so that it looks like this: [[1] ), then you can select the link, open the link tool, and you should get a button that will allow you to add a label.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)02:23, 28 January 2015
 

Is it possible to enable VE on a certain page?

We would like to have VE enabled on the Sandbox on the Finnish Wikipedia. As the Sandbox is in Wikipedia namepace it's not possible to use it there. I found out that on en-wiki they created another sandbox for user page, because VE is enabled on user pages. Anyway, I think that VE is not going to be enabled on Wikipedia namespace since there are many forums or so, I wonder would it be possible to enable it for the Sandbox?

Stryn (talk)19:30, 25 January 2015

You can create a draft namespace (enWP ns118, ruWP ns102). For this namespace enable VE and transfer sandbox or create new draft:sandbox for VE in this namespace.

Сунприат (talk)15:22, 26 January 2015

It can be configured per namespace, but I do not believe that it can be turned on for a single page within a namespace. Сунприат's suggestion of using the Draft namespace is one possible solution. Alternatively, you could create a "User:Sandbox" or just a subpage in your own userspace, and invite people to use that instead.

VisualEditor is offered there by default. Do you think that people really need a separate sandbox for it?

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)02:21, 28 January 2015
 
 

Table settings

It is great that table editing has been added :). Will some table settings be added in some way soon? I'm thinking of common things like making a table sortable or if there should be a border or not etc without going into edit source mode.

Regards, Daniel

83.249.10.4620:53, 27 January 2015

The goal is to make more of the common and simpler actions, like making a column sortable, fairly soon. However, colors and borders require more design work, so I don't think you should expect to see those options any time soon.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)02:15, 28 January 2015
 

In monobook we had the right margin. In vector theme of this margin is not. There is a feeling (especially in VE) of infinity on the right and edit not the page, - some "corner". I changed CSS to .mw-body {border-width: 1px 1px 1px 1px; margin-right: 1em;} and this look is much more conventional, more like editing in usual text editor (ms word, lo writer), not so frightens non-standard form editing, directly feel more confident. In my opinion, the addition of right border&margin (may be just border when VE open) may contribute to greater popularity VE. http://i60.tinypic.com/f4l3kx.png

Сунприат (talk)14:42, 26 January 2015

Set the focus to the input field when adding template

You've being doing an excellent job in the last months. Thanks. I really like the possibility to add templates directly when typing "{{" in visual editor. But I would appreciate if you could manage to set directly the focus to the corresponding input field appearing on the screen. Now, I need to move my mouse and click in the field to be able to start typing the name of the template I want to add (using FF38.0a1). Thanks.

Afernand74 (talk)16:26, 25 January 2015

VisualEditor not loaded

Sometimes, starting from this morning, it took forever to load the VisualEditor. Here's the error found in the browser console:

"TypeError: mw.config.get(...) is null" TypeError: mw.config.get(...) is null
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William Surya Permana (talk)07:48, 8 January 2015

Additional information: This only occured if I'm logged in.

Anyone having this problem too? I also cannot edit translation in Special:Translate

William Surya Permana (talk)11:28, 9 January 2015

If you're talking about id.wiki, looks like several people are not having any issues with VE. The fact that the error occurs when you're logged in makes me think you have probably changed some setting (probably enabled some gadget or changed some script) recently which conflicts with VE.

Elitre (WMF) (talk)12:08, 9 January 2015

No. The VE in id.wiki is fine. The one in mediawiki which is having this issue (I tried the VE on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Sandbox?veaction=edit). Sometimes the VE works, but sometimes not. But editing string in Special:Translate in mediawiki now always not works :(

William Surya Permana (talk)12:47, 9 January 2015

User:William Surya Permana, do you have HotCat enabled? If so, turn it off. I believe tat Special:Translate will start working then.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)22:48, 12 January 2015

Wow. Thank you. The Special:Translate starts working again after I disabled the HotCat.

William Surya Permana (talk)14:18, 15 January 2015
 
 
 
 
 

Doesn't work at all for me

When cliking on the Edit-Button up-right on this page the page get's gray an an working-icon is displayed in the upper-right – forever! It doesn't continue. My system: Firefox 13.0.1 on Linux Mint. Using Chromium it does work.

-- MichaelSchoenitzer (talk) 17:49, 28 June 2012 (UTC)18:39, 28 June 2012

Sorry that it doesn't work for you. Does it still happen after a full-reload (Ctrl-Shift-R)?

Jdforrester (WMF) (talk)20:59, 28 June 2012
 

Well it did do something but did it wrong. Eg. pressing enter at the end of the last sentence is supposed to carriage-return and move one line down ... nope, instead it inserts a line above existing page. Kill it before it grows.

Retired electrician (talk)08:55, 5 July 2012

Thanks for your feedback. Can you tell me what browser (and ideally, what version of it) you are using, so we can track down the problem?

Jdforrester (WMF) (talk)22:49, 5 July 2012

For me, it is Google Verision 39.0.2171.95 m

Nbagigafreak (talk)22:37, 13 January 2015
 
 
 

narrow field of the row parameter

When I edit the template parameter in the template is fixed height of line. In the line there are long sentences, templates lang and ref, bulleted list - they as text, not recognized by the content or template inside a parameter. Before, the line could become a more big height, when click inside her.

http://tempfile.ru/view/14007/217162ed4c/a10849087acd307a4ea33d22.png

Сунприат (talk)17:49, 8 January 2015

User:Сунприат, what web browser, OS, and Wikipedia skin are you using?

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)22:47, 12 January 2015

latest firefox & chromium, ubuntu, ruwp & enwp, vector

Сунприат (talk)23:19, 12 January 2015
 
 

Find and 'dismiss' find

Completely by chance I pressed the "find" [Command+F (I'm on a Mac)] function while within the Visual Editor. I had expected to access the find feature of the Browser but instead it accessed the feature within media-wiki - I didn't even know this was part of Visual Editor. Cool! Nicely done. A Find/replace tool appeared from the top of the mediawiki area and it worked well (if slowly). However, when I had found what I was looking for - I couldn't see an easy way to dismiss the find function and return to editing. The only way i was able to dismiss the find/replace tool was to use Command+F again. So, my feedback is that I didn't know that find/replace existed, and can't immediately see how to dismiss it once it's activated - in short: the on/off button for the tool is not visible :-) Wittylama (talk) 23:54, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Wittylama (talk)23:54, 20 December 2014

Addressing only a few points here, the most common key to dismiss anything, Esc, works for me. Check if it does so for you as well? (This was mentioned in the VisualEditor newsletter delivered later to your talk on en.wp.) Best,

Elitre (WMF) (talk)16:57, 22 December 2014
 

The Escape key also works. However, you probably won't learn that until you start desperately trying anything to get rid of that (slow) search function.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)18:16, 1 January 2015

Inadvertent launching the find-function crashed my Firefox... Also, I don't see so much the added value over the native browser find?

Stratoprutser (talk)15:08, 3 January 2015

Well this can do much more than the native browser find. It's handy if you want to replace some typos for example. Of course it's not like Notepad++ and when you run it on browser it's much slower than external program and may crash easily if you try to do some big changes.

Stryn (talk)23:15, 3 January 2015

It should be much faster now on mediawiki.org amd soon at the other projects.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)22:56, 12 January 2015
 
 
 
 

Relative Subpage Links

VE does not accept the entry of relative subpage links. In particular, it will not recognize links entered as /subpage or /subpage/. Subpage links must be entered as full links, which defeats the purpose of having relative links that don't break when pages are moved or renamed.

Dave Braunschweig (talk)14:58, 27 December 2014

It lags too much

When I open the editor, the page freezes for a few moments. Also, the find and replace feature is unusable. When I type something in, it gets reaaally slow.

Tetra quark (talk)19:13, 10 January 2015

Thanks for the feedback. The find-and-replace tool should be much faster in a few days, especially on large pages.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)23:10, 10 January 2015
 

Templatedata in Templates?

Edited by author.
Last edit: 03:34, 10 January 2015

Hi, I saw its possible to add standard templatedata through templates, but when I tried to add a template to the templatedata description, the template wasn't substituted. We have very many very similar templates, and their documentation mostly comes through templates, so it would be super handy to be able to add TD through templates, too. Just, as the template-page is more informative then the template interface in the VE, it would be nice to have the option of adding more customized info to the TD description without having to edit all the templates manually.

Also, why is templatedata inside the template text, why didn't you add it to a separate DB field? Seem more intuitive? Now its mixing json with Wikitext...

And: Would it be possible to display some TD description in the template selection in the VE? You really have to be familiar with the template name to add it, and I guess it would be not too complicated to show the template description, either abridged, or in the hover-text? Thanks!

Bonus question: What's the exact difference between parameter type "string" and type "line" in TD? Couldnt find it in the specs.
Stratoprutser (talk)19:06, 30 November 2014

Hi Stratoprutser.

"Line" is for short text, and "string" is for any text. Moriel pointed me to GitHub for the description.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)18:44, 10 December 2014

@Whatamidoing (WMF): all possible variants: ru:Шаблон:Песочница для шаблонов/doc, in some ru:Special:Random in VE paste template "Песочница для шаблонов/doc" - and what these types should give? I can write and save any text in any of the types.

Сунприат (talk)04:12, 10 January 2015
 
 

"Save" at the end of the toolbar

Why is the VisualEditor "Save" button is at the end of the toolbar? (Right in LTR, left in RTL.)

In other desktop word processors the save button is in the beginning of the toolbar.

I somehow didn't think about this till now because it didn't bother me personally, but a user in the Hebrew Wikipedia asked about this, so I'm wondering: why is it so?

Amir E. Aharoni (talk)09:27, 9 January 2015

terrible title in the form of saving the page

many buttons in the title form of saving the page. Look, two buttons on top of the word [1]. Please, redesign the title to all of the text in it was visible properly

Сунприат (talk)12:11, 4 January 2015

User:Сунприат, would you please look at the save box here and let me know if you see the same problem? Click on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Sandbox?veaction=edit&uselang=ru Make a change and start to save. Then tell me if it still exists (I expect your answer will be "yes"). Please also tell me which web browser and computer operating system you are using. Thanks!

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)05:18, 5 January 2015

Yes, it's the same giant buttons again. latest firefox & chromium, ubuntu. Sometimes I have seen only one letter "С",it's terrible. Also this in part "review you changes", where one big button on the right and on top of the words. And other same form - editing templates.

Сунприат (talk)09:36, 5 January 2015
 

We have this problem too in Indonesian. The title only show the first word and ends with … ("Simpan ...") rather than spelling out the entire title ("Simpan perubahan Anda").

William Surya Permana (talk)07:36, 8 January 2015
 
 
 

See [1] - the = in the url [2] made the template not work correctly. Is there a way to fix this?

Stratoprutser (talk)15:06, 3 January 2015

This is not related to VisualEditor. Even if you add the template without VisualEditor it won't work as expected if you add the same URL there. Something should be fixed in the template instead.

Stryn (talk)23:09, 3 January 2015

True, however, as Templates would never receive parameter-names (bla=...) through the VE-interface, its safe to assume for VE that the "=" doesn't indicate a new named parameter. Couldn't VE encode = to %3D or would that create other issues? Or otherwise throw a warning?

Stratoprutser (talk)17:13, 5 January 2015

Reported as phab:T85958

TheDJ (Not WMF) (talkcontribs)21:01, 6 January 2015
 
 
 

tag syntaxhighlight

What is planned for the code, source and syntaxhighlight tags, really do as an mw:Extension:CodeEditor?

Сунприат (talk)12:05, 4 January 2015
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