I tried out the new wikitext editor and found it slow and awkward. There is a tab labelled '''Read''', but rather than giving me the expected preview it asks whether I want to leave the page.
I saw in another page that preview is hidden in '''Publish''', which is highly unobvious. Even less obvious is getting back to source editing.
Also, is there a way to get into the old editor without first disabling the beta?
If you want to use an older wikitext editor, you can hand-edit the URL to say action=submit instead of veaction=editsource.
It would be more convenient to have the "Preview" button/option be visible from the getgo instead of having to look for it and accidentally stumble upon it in the "Publish" menu. ~~~~
As I said in my own feedback, I strongly support moving the "preview" button into the main editing area, not hiding it in a dusty closet behind "Publish Changes". Edward-Woodrow (talk) 16:00, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
The main problem is that the toolbar is already full, for people on smaller screens. There's one editor at the English Wikipedia for whom the toolbar is wrapped, so that it fills two full lines. If we add anything else, he'll end up with three rows of toolbar, and almost no place to type.
Hi, Whatamidoing (WMF). I suppose that makes sense. By the way, there is clearly some kind of discussion tool that is enabled by default here and on frwiki – the one that involves the "Topic" namespace, and signatures at the top of comments, and so on. I find it very annoying. How do I disable this? Thanks, Edward-Woodrow (talk) 23:42, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
You don't, really. It's enabled per page. This is the first phase of "Flow", aka Structured Discussions. I think it'll be removed sometime in the next year or so (or the next time it breaks).
Ugh. I despise it passionately. Edward-Woodrow (talk) 19:36, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
And this is a reply to my previous comment. Indentation? No! It's just one hideous mess. Edward-Woodrow (talk) 19:37, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
If memory serves, they cancelled the project in the middle of the design work about indentation. At the moment, if you reply to something in the middle of a thread, then it indents that, but anything added to the end is not indented.
Also, to be fair to the project, it was meant to handle complex workflows, specifically including enwiki's ArbCom case pages and AFD. (Imagine a world in which ArbCom votes aren't tallied by hand.) They only got as far as "post messages on a talk page" when the project was cancelled.
