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What does "You'll receive a notification here on Wikipedia once there's a response." mean here?

Does the mentor have to ping the participant for this to happen?

@@Trizek (WMF), can you help me? :)

I have found phab:T220753 :)

Yes, mentors have to ping newcomers. A newcomer returning back to their mentor's talk page is unlikely to happen, and, on a crowded page, their chances to find back the message they left is really rare. Pinging is a best practice we documented as a more successful way to have a real discussion between mentors and mentees.

I edited the section on the help page, can you check it plz :)

Checked!

> For instance, on wikitext talk pages, mention the user when you reply.

I think here it is necessary to point out that this action is mandatory.

I thought so, then it should be explicitly indicated somewhere to the mentors (because I repeat this every week for someone), and this message should be rewritten. Since if the mentor did not ping newcomer, then it does not correspond to reality. I think we can also give a link to d:Q12377052.

Maybe this ping should be systematic when one replies to a newcomer?

Yes, I insist on this when communicating with other mentors, but sometimes it is not only mentors who answer newcomers. And some mentors may simply forget about pinging a user. Tired after work, for example.

Good points. Thank you for thinking about all this, it is really helpful.

I documented it roughly (I'm in a hurry now) on Phabricator, feel free to edit with more uses cases! https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T272146 :)

Thank you! As always :)