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All text is lost if someone saves edit while editing (Timeless style)

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Mur (talkcontribs)

I have encountered already twice a problem where I have created a page of text and then when I'm saving, someone has made an edit (e.g. added a photo). The editor then prompts that there's conflict and would I like to solve it in text mode. Then it loses ALL content that has been input so far. This is frustrating...

Mur (talkcontribs)
Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Mur, does this happen only in the Timeless skin? It sounds very frustrating, especially if you've done more than a tiny bit of work.

Mur (talkcontribs)

Thanks, it is very frustrating. I changed to default skin, but I think the problem might occur with other skins as well.

  1. you edit article
  2. then someone has saved new version meanwhile
  3. you publish changes
  4. dialog pops up warning "resolve conflict in wikitext" . if you press X nothing happens, and you return to editor
  5. if you click "resolve conflict" the editor throws you to wikicode page how it looked like before either one had edited the page. So the version you started editing. It doesn't have the edits added by another user.
  6. All edits are lost and cannot be brought back.
  7. If you switch to the wikicode mode after seeing the dialog, it also does the same thing and removes all your edits reverting back to where you started before writing anything. So it's not possible to switch to "edit wikicode" mode and copy your edits. It reverts to version before either user had edited like with the "resolve conflict" button.
Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

It should show multiple boxes, with the other editors' work and your own in separate boxes. See w:en:Help:Edit conflict.

Mur (talkcontribs)

This situation is very confusing arrangement for someone who has been using visual editor to edit the page and now they are forced to understand the wiki code. For me it is not a problem but I think it might be for anyone for haven't used it. Especially that default option is to discard all changes. I think it should be the otherwise around, so that the new save overrides anything edited in between and the conflict may be resolved after that by other editors, so text is not lost from less experienced editors?

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

@Max Klemm (WMDE), do you think that the new tools for edit conflicts would help here?

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