Topic on Talk:Notifications

Ymblanter (talkcontribs)

Thanks for the beta-feature, seems very convenient. The problem is that if I open it it shows all notifications as read (which I understand will be fixed later and is fine with me for the time being), but the number of unread notifications remains non-zero unless I actually go and read all of them one by one (this is from my experience in the English Wikipedia). In Wikidata, I get the FLOW talk page messages notifications in the same box, and there is a option to mark all of them as read without going to every page. If I click on that option, it resets the number of messages to zero. It would be great to have the same option for cross-wiki notifications. Thanks.

Ymblanter (talkcontribs)

BTW I am not a regular Mediawiki editor, and I hope the replies will show up on my notification window in other projects.

Roan Kattouw (WMF) (talkcontribs)

There is a "mark all as read" button, but that (deliberately) doesn't mark notifications from other wikis as read. However, you can click the "X" icons to mark individual notifications as read, and you can click the "X" icon next to the cross-wiki message (the "You have messages from 2 other wikis" thing) to mark all notifications from other wikis as read. Hope that helps. We realize "X" isn't the clearest symbol for "mark as read", so we're working on figuring out what to use instead.

And yes, my reply should show up in your notification window on other projects, if you enabled the beta feature there. That's the point of this feature ;)

Ymblanter (talkcontribs)

It did show up in my notifications. X was indeed not clear (and if I click on it the message disappears from the list - I am not sure whether it is good or bad, but the FLOW messages do not disappear if I click on read, and there should probably be a record somewhere), so I would appreciate a clearer visualization, but for the time being it should be fine. Dank je wel Roan.

Roan Kattouw (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Yeah, the fact that they disappear is not that clear. It's consistent, because only unread foreign notifications are listed (so once a notification becomes read, it isn't listed any more), but you're not the first person who's expressed that it confused them.

As for the Flow messages -- the difference there is "local" notifications (notifications from the wiki you're on) vs "foreign" ones (notifications from other wikis).

As for keeping a record somewhere -- there is one, but it will be on the wiki the notification came from. So notifications about this conversation, once you've marked them as read, won't appear on other wikis any more but you can still see them on this wiki (mediawiki.org).

Ymblanter (talkcontribs)

Sure, but for example today I got a notification from Sundanese Wikipedia. I am sure in a week I will not be able to remember what the hell this project was. In this case, it was a usual greeting, I probably accidentally created a user account there, and it is not at all important, but I can imagine that in some situations it could be handy. This is absolutely not the first priority, but if this "global record" could be made I would appreciate it. (May be it comes for free with the global watchlist, I do not know).

Roan Kattouw (WMF) (talkcontribs)

That's a sensible request. We're going to work on improving Special:Notifications next, and something like this could be included there. It may be tricky from a technical perspective, though, because we don't currently have good tracking of read notifications (as opposed to unread ones) across wikis.

Ymblanter (talkcontribs)

Great, thanks.

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