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Summary by MusikAnimal

Fixed! WMF migration complete and XTools was updated accordingly

Kosack (talkcontribs)

Hi, the tool seems to be counting more edits as being without edit summaries all of a sudden. Could you tell me what edits are now being counted as without? Is it starting new pages or use of a tool like twinkle perhaps?

MusikAnimal (talkcontribs)

It's due to a WMF database migration. All summaries should return in a few days (hopefully). I'm putting up a disclaimer in the XTools interface, and will look into an interim solution until WMF is done with the migration. You can follow updates at phab:T189234.

Summary by MusikAnimal

Fixed! The summaries should all be there now

RHcosm (talkcontribs)

Since few days this tool shows all semi automated edits as no summary edits. If the counting system is not changed please solve this problem.

MusikAnimal (talkcontribs)

It's due to a WMF database migration. All summaries should return in a few days (hopefully). I'm putting up a disclaimer in the XTools interface, and will look into an interim solution until WMF is done with the migration. You can follow updates at phab:T189234.

"mw-classes/LanguageConverter.php"?

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Summary by MusikAnimal

This appears to have been fixed.

Where was I last night? (talkcontribs)

Hi, the gadget displays "mw-classes/LanguageConverter.php" at zh language, but it works fine at zh-Hans or zh-Hant. It can be solved by fallback zh to zh-Hans (or zh-Hant), but how to do it?

Gwillhickers (talkcontribs)

What happened to the previous edit counter and pie chart? With all due respect, the new 'system' looks like someone's overly involved science project. Are all these new features, graphs, charts, mini-pie charts, etc, etc really necessary? Who really needs all of these features? Besides that, the new edit counter takes -very- long to come up. Is there a way to go back to the previous edit counter?

MusikAnimal (talkcontribs)

I think you're talking about how the Supercount tool now redirects to XTools. That was done by @Cyberpower678. I will say that soon, XTools will allow you to specify which sections you want to see. With that, you could hide the "Timecard", "Top edited pages", etc., and effectively get only the information Supercount provided.

MusikAnimal (talkcontribs)

@Gwillhickers A new version of XTools has been released that allows you to select which stats you want to see in the Edit Counter. If you want it to match Supercount, I think that would include "general stats", "namespace totals", "year counts" and "month counts". You can generate links using the form at https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec. So for instance, a link for Gwillhickers could be constructed like this:

https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec/en.wikipedia.org/Gwillhickers?sections=general-stats%7Cnamespace-totals%7Cyear-counts%7Cmonth-counts

@Cyberpower678 I don't know if you want the Supercount redirect to just show these sections, but it's now an option.

Cyberpower678 (talkcontribs)

@MusikAnimal If you can pickup referers, you can certainly make it a default option if you detect that the user just got redirected from Supercount. But Supercount is old, insecure and vulnerable. For now it will exist to redirect to a properly developed tool.

Summary by MusikAnimal

Feature has been deployed

Mtminchi08 (talkcontribs)

The "Top edits per namespace" only displays the top 100 pages which I have edited in the Main space. Previously, I was able to see a display of all the pages to which I had made at least one edit. Is there any way to expand the current display to more than 100 pages? I found it quite useful to track my total edits in a single place rather than having to look at the Revision history statistics on a page-by-page basis.

MusikAnimal (talkcontribs)

We can't list all results, unconditionally, as their could be tens of thousands for some users. But we could limit it to 1,000 results and let you use pagination to see the rest. I've created phab:T199765.

Mtminchi08 (talkcontribs)

Thank you. That would be really helpful.

Mtminchi08 (talkcontribs)

Following up on last month's discussion...when will this be available for public use?

MusikAnimal (talkcontribs)

It's on the radar :) I expect to get around to this maybe within the coming week. You can follow phab:T199765 for updates

MusikAnimal (talkcontribs)

This feature has been deployed. Thanks for the patience!

Browsable Latest global edits: jump

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Mik (talkcontribs)

First of all, thank you for implementing this feature. However it is missing one thing: it should be possible to jump to a specific date or page or edit# (whichever is simpler to implement). It could be even a parameter in URL. Browsing thousands of edits page by page is not very convenient.

Mik (talkcontribs)

Related thing: After getting the following error:

Error querying Latest global edits API: timeout

reloading will lead to the first page. It should retry to generate the same page that was last displayed. This again speaks for a URL parameter.

MusikAnimal (talkcontribs)

Yes the API timeout is shorter than the database query timeout, so sometimes you can hit refresh and it will show up. That much I can certainly fix.

There is a hidden feature for pagination. On the dedicated ec-latestglobal page, you can add a /50 for instance to the end of the URL to offset the results by 50. For example: https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec-latestglobal/en.wikipedia.org/Mik/50. We should make the URL update itself whenever you paginate through the results, so that this feature will be more obvious.

I would like to implement date filtering, too. I think that would be very helpful. We do this for about half of the tools (Page History, Automated Edits, etc.), so we should do the same for the Edit Counter to be consistent. This would also be a way to speed up the processing time. I have created phab:T202552.

Reply to "Browsable Latest global edits: jump"
Mik (talkcontribs)

The colors of namespaces in the charts and graphs could relate to each other in the following pairs:

Main Talk
User User talk
Wikipedia Wikipedia talk
Template Template talk
File File talk
Book Book talk
Category Category talk
Help Help talk
Portal Portal talk
... ... talk

Eg. the color of talk namespace could be the same hue and saturation but lighter than the related non-talk namespace color.

MusikAnimal (talkcontribs)

I'm fairly apprehensive about changing the namespace colours. The old XTools and Supercount (now retired) used the same, so there's sort of an established, long-standing norm. I think the current colours were chosen such that if you listed each namespace in sequence (main, talk, user, user talk, ...) they won't clash.

Reply to "Namespace colors"
Summary by MusikAnimal

This should be fixed.

Manvydasz (talkcontribs)

Why in section Admin Score edit summaries used in the article space and edits to the article space count is same for all users?

MusikAnimal (talkcontribs)

Edit summaries are measured only in the mainspace because that's a strictly collaborative area. For instance you generally aren't expected to use edit summaries in your userspace.

Your second point sounds like a bug. This tool admittedly has not been given much attention. I'll try to look into it soon.

Summary by MusikAnimal

Insufficient information given

Seraphim System (talkcontribs)

This seems to be one of the tools that broke with the last Firefox 57 update on Linux Mint.

MusikAnimal (talkcontribs)

Yes, we will need more information. What about it is broken? Can you give a specific link? Thanks!

Seraphim System (talkcontribs)

It just isn't visible at all - the page loads and its not there. I'm not sure how I could find out more specific information about why...

MusikAnimal (talkcontribs)

Could you provide an exact link? Is it broken for all tools in the XTools suite (Page History, Edit Counter, etc.)? Do you see anything, or is it a completely blank page?

If the page loads, but you're just missing the charts, it might be a JavaScript issue. For that see w:en:WP:JSERROR on how to report any errors. Thanks!

Wargo (talkcontribs)

Symptoms?

Improvement: Browsable Latest global edits

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Summary by MusikAnimal

Feature implemented

Mik (talkcontribs)

I do not know how Latest global edits is implemented, but it would be nice if it was browsable. If you do not cache all edits (I doubt it), you could get only latest ones from each wiki (like 50 or so), and on pressing next remember only the latest displayed edit for each wiki, and get the changes from that point. I hope my explanation is clear enough.

MusikAnimal (talkcontribs)

It goes quite slow, is the problem. For a more thorough review of individual edits across all wikis, I recommend trying the Global user contributions tool, which is optimized for this purpose. This is linked to at the top of the XTools Edit Counter.

Mik (talkcontribs)

The GUC tool is limited to 20 edits/wiki.

MusikAnimal (talkcontribs)

Probably for the same reason, that it goes really, really slow :/ I can see from the production logs that the XTools global contributions, as-is, often times out. That's why it's loaded via AJAX (after everything else has loaded), so as not to slow down the whole tool.

We might could allow this in the dedicated global edits page (e.g. https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec-latestglobal/en.wikipedia.org/Mik), and if it times out, well, it times out :) I see that the tool loads quickly for your account, so it is certainly true that for many people this would work quite well.

I've created phab:T190956.

MusikAnimal (talkcontribs)

This feature has been deployed. Let us know if you have any issues.