Talk:Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements/Frequently asked questions/Flow

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TonyCastro (talkcontribs)

I have a webpage that includes photos I have taken of nearly 2,500 bird species.

In addition to adding many bird photos to Wikipedia from this collection, I also include on my site numerous links to bird range maps provided by Wikipedia.

In redesigning your homepage, I plead that you do not change the URLs to these maps.

http://seeworthybirds.com

Thank you for your wonderful work.

SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talkcontribs)

@TonyCastro, hello! Certainly, we will not change the URLs of any wikipages :)

Where can I leaave my feedback?

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Bageense (talkcontribs)

I don't want to report bugs, just leave a feedback. I edit the Portuguese Wikipedia, by the way, and I'm currently testing the new desktop design.

SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talkcontribs)

"One of the best parts of the MediaWiki interface is how configurable it is."

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93.136.36.89 (talkcontribs)

If I'm right about this redesign being all about standardizing the user experience, I think this sentence is resting on old laurels and needs to be removed.

Business success metrics

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Calimeroteknik (talkcontribs)

I do not understand why mediawiki would need to think its success with criteria commercial businesses use with their customers.

Things like aiming to increase:

  • User retention
  • Search count
  • Trust sentiment (as opposed to fact-based)

…sound like what a commercial business would target, not mediawiki projects like Wikipedia.

I imagine these criteria to be more important:

  • accessibility
  • stability (releasing the new stuff only when it's ready)
  • technical simplicity

limiting characters per line, not content width, reportedly helps readability

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Calimeroteknik (talkcontribs)

Limiting characters per line within a column of text is reported by many readers to ease reading.

While limiting the entire content's width also happens to limit the number of characters that can fit in a line, limiting the width of the content of the page is doing a lot more than just that.

To prove by example that other approaches can achieve the same goal, one could cite newspapers, that produce several columns of text with short lines. In passing, in newspapers the columns are very narrow because it is hard to hold it flat in front of you to read it, something anyone reading news on actual paper has noticed.

It is also quite possible that, by digging into the reason why 80~100 characters per line are reported to maximize readability, one would discover other ways to achieve higher readability, the actual goal. Again, I do not expect anyone to believe me without proof by example: long text lines with alternating background color (as in tables) is a far-fetched idea, but it could also feature high legibility, and that sort of idea can only come out of seeing the question from this broader perspective targeting the final objective.

Note/disclaimer: I am myself indifferent to line length, except when it goes below 50 characters.

there is nothing inherently wrong with white space?

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Calimeroteknik (talkcontribs)

One thing is perceived as wrong with white space: there is no other way than to scroll down* to see the rest of the content, when part of the screen is left blank.

(*)or more generally replace the on-screen content with the content that comes next

How can I disable it?

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24.151.56.107 (talkcontribs)

I do not believe that either method (user preferences or an opt-out button in the left sidebar) works for readers who are not logged in. 24.151.56.107 17:51, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

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