Talk:Phabricator/Help

Hello, I would like my phabricator account to be deleted. Link to my account: My phabricator username and Wikimedia username don't match because I got renamed on Wikimedia. I created my phabricator account years ago and I won't use it ever again. I would prefere deletion of the phabricator account over renaming. According to Phabricator/Help#Troubleshooting "...we can delete your account..." account deletion is technically possible, but I can't find the option to delete my account in the phabricator gui so could you please delete it for me? Thanks!

Hi, that Phabricator account has had activity, so it is not possible to delete it. It could be renamed though.

Too bad. In that case, could you rename it to my Wikimedia username Œ̷͠²ð·¨´´̢́̕͘³͏¯̞̗ please? (just copy-paste the text)

Hi, I cannot because these characters are not supported; see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help#With_your_global_wiki_account

Oh sry I didn't know that. Could you rename my account to "renamed_user" then please? My main request is for my old username to disappear, so if even that name is not possible you can just type in random letters or numbers. Sorry for the late reply (I was afk) and thank you for your patience.

Alright, done: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/people/manage/9332/

Hi

Several years ago I changed my username from Mrjohncummings to John Cummings, but this didn't switch for Phabricator, please could someone change it for me?

Thanks very much

@John Cummings Yes, however whitespace in usernames is not possible so it would have to be "John_Cummings" (or such). See Phabricator/Help#Creating your account for name restrictions.

Yes that would be fine, thanks very much for your help

Sure! :) Done: phab:p/John_Cummings/

Thanks very much indeed, I feel like a new man :)

Hi, can someone please explain how "Priority" works, as it determines how soon a task is fixed. What is the meaning of "reflects reality and does not cause it"? Thank you.

@Akmaie Ajam Hi, see Phabricator/Project management#Setting task priorities - thanks!

@AKlapper (WMF) Well, why https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T210224 has Medium priority, while https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T172838 has Low priority, even though they are similar (removing/replacing FlaggedRevs)?

@Akmaie Ajam: T210224 is a discussion about reverting T121995 which happened in 2015. It might have a different priority because someone has decided to work on T210224. In any case, the "Priority" field often does not change much, and sometimes is "wishful thinking" what we would like to avoid. Whether someone plans to work on a task is more relevant.

So, the task priority stays on Low (or Needs Triage), no matter the actual priority/importance, until someone decides to work in the task?

@Akmaie Ajam Priorities or "importance" for you or a community unfortunately can differ from priorities of the limited number of developers, or priorities which need to balance the needs of hundreds of Wikimedia communities.

If you think that there are reasons why a certain task should have a higher priority compared to the priorities of many other open existing tasks out there, feel free to elaborate in the corresponding task. Thanks! ( Furthermore, raising the priority of a task won't change anything, as long as nobody plans to work on a task, but I guess I explained that before.)

What is the definition of "affects normal, everyday work significantly" and "contrived examples or problems that only appear under unlikely circumstances"? Does FlaggedRevs meet the former or the latter criteria? (Note: It affects the unregistered readers, which makes up most of users of Wikipedia)

There is no priority for "affects normal, everyday work significantly" as that's not describing priority (urgency) but describing impact (severity). These are different things...

No, what I mean is the aforementioned question in Bug management/Phabricator etiquette.

I don't think I can provide a clear "definition" for what you wrote. In my understanding of the term "definition" it is already a definition.

What I mean is the line in Bug management/Phabricator etiquette that says "Report status and priority fields summarize and reflect reality and do not cause it." and "Contrived examples or problems that only appear under unlikely circumstances are generally evidence for treating the problem as "low" or "lowest" priority, since the limits of any non-trivial software can be exceeded if you try hard enough."

It used to be possible to query a field in Maniphest with comma-separated task IDs. I can't find this field anymore. I recall that there are some workarounds that generate this field (for instance, it used to be that bulk jobs showed it), but I have failed to reproduce them. Is this field available? It's useful, for instance, when someone is tracking tasks in, say, a spreadsheet, and wants to bulk-change specific tasks that are otherwise hard to query.

I was able to get the field to appear by editing the URL. For instance: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/query/advanced/?ids=T55018 will show the IDs field, which can then be manipulated. However, executing the query then results in Unhandled Exception ("AphrontParameterQueryException"):

Update! (Thanks for reading, you're the best audience ever).

I followed the error code and assumed it was looking for an integer, and the "T" in the task ID was the problem. Lo and behold, removing that makes it work. :)

I wonder if I should make a Phab task (or few) to clean this up? For example, exposing the IDs field normally, or generating error pages that are easier to understand, etc.

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/?ids=1,2,3,4#R is the format; glad that you found it. :)

Cool cool. Is that already documented somewhere, or should I make something anew?

I think it's not documented yet; would be good to add to Phabricator/Help .

Off-topic here as this talk page is about using Phabricator; not on-wiki configuration or software development priorities

Hi, I'm Akmaie Ajam. Why it takes so long to replace FlaggedRevs? In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T210224, it just takes setting wgFlaggedRevsOverride to true. Why it takes a year or more to do it (The patch was open, but I don't see a FlaggedRevs alert like in the Indonesian Wikipedia)? I have a discussion in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T172838, about replacing FlaggedRevs with the system in the English Wikipedia. The reason I'm posting here is that there is so many revisions that have been delayed, and FlaggedRevs applies to most articles (I think). The Indonesian Wikipedia is just too large for FlaggedRevs; I think FlaggedRevs is only suitable for wikis with under 10,000 articles. Unlike the Hungarian Wikipedia, where the opinions are mixed, the Indonesian Wikipedia has voted overwhelmingly in favor of replacing FlaggedRevs (95%) (https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Permohonan_pendapat/Penerapan_perubahan_tertunda_dan_pengguna_terkonfirmasi_lanjutan). It sat closed (by Urbanecm) for 3 years and then I reopened it. I'm looking for developers that can replace FlaggedRevs. Thank you for reading.

@Akmaie Ajam Hi, the Phabricator/Help page is for questions how to use the Wikimedia Phabricator website and software. For specific topics which are related to some task in Phabricator, please bring them up in that task in Phabricator: Comments in Phabricator should be directly related to fixing the task. For thoughts unrelated to the topic of the task (for example, meta-level discussions on priorities in general or on whether a new extension is wanted) should go to the appropriate mailing lists, wiki talk pages, or separate reports. For general information about software development priorities, see Bug management/Development prioritization. Thanks!

I enable 2fa, but recently have been having trouble accessing Phabricator: Despite making sure my system clock has a sub-second difference with time.gov, when I enter the time-based one time pad token I always receive the error message This factor recently issued a challenge which has expired. A new challenge can not be issued yet. Wait 22 seconds for the code to cycle, then try again. the first time, and on subsequent tries simply `Invalid`.

Looking at the https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/84/ (Observability Workboard) I'd like to add "milestones" for tasks and subtasks to be quarters specific (IE each quarter be a milestone), this is more for our organizational purpose and not a required field for incoming tasks.

This would allow me to sort and groom our workboard and backlog to be able to assign future milestones (ie this task will be assined to milestone Q3-2020).

The other ask is I'd like to create a couple of tags to better sort our process (IE blocked/radar or backlog/groomed/icebox) to help us sort the work as well

@LMata (WMF) Hi! Creating milestone projects (see Phabricator/Project management#Parent Projects, Subprojects and Milestones for their [dis]advantages) requires project creation rights. See Phabricator/Creating and renaming projects for how to request them.

Regarding tags, could you please elaborate? Most teams use workboard columns for things like "blocked/radar) instead of (global) project tags. Thanks!

adding some color to the new tags, is there an "interface" to create these new tags or should i just type it in the box and will it auto add?

I'm afraid I cannot follow where exactly you are doing what exactly, sorry. Steps welcome. :-/

Apologies, i didn't seem to have the right permissions... So what I'll be doing is creating a new tag with milestones to sort our work and continue to use the observability as an intake tag. I've been reading the documentation and watching the videos so i think I've answered my own question. Thanks!

@AKlapper (WMF), could you change the username of my Phabricator account from neilpquinn to nshahquinn? Thank you!

Sure, done.

I would like to create projects in Phabricator. Is this the right place to ask to upgrade my rights, or is there another ticketing system? My user is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/p/Naike/

@NNzali (WMF) Heja, see the "Permission" item on Phabricator/Creating and renaming projects#Creating new projects - thanks!

Renamed.

Can my username on phabricator (Nnvu) be changed to my Wikimedia global name (Mannivu)?

@Mannivu Sure! Done. :)