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JTanner (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hello, I need edit access to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T199155 and https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T199158

AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)

(In general, if there is an error message, please include the exact error message when describing an error.)

Maybe you run into https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T199122 ? If so feel free to comment on that task.

Jeremyb (talkcontribs)

did you try editing? what specifically are you unable to edit? (are you logged in to phabricator?)

Member of "Section-Editing-Support"?

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Summary by Elitre (WMF)

Possibly a cache issue. If I remember, I'll check back in a while.

Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)

This is a milestone in Phab - I don't seem able to "unsubscribe" from it?

AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Not sure what "unsubscribe" means... I do not see you listed as a watcher nor as a member, neither of that milestone nor of its parent project "Parsoid" so I'm not sure why you think you are subscribed to...something. :)

Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Because Phab tells me this is the case (not that I am a "member", but I can't figure out why it shows up there). If you need this reported as a bug somewhere I'll be glad to do so. Thanks.

AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Something like that is also explained on Phab itself. I would have assumed unsuscribing from Parsoid would fix it, but clearly it didn't, at least not immediately. What I don't understand is how I make that line disappear from the query above now, if possible. Otherwise, not a big thing.

AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I'm really only guessing here: I could imagine that daemons have to reindex such changes, maybe that data is cached for better performance. But we great if you could check in a two or three days again and open a task if it's still outdated.

Username approve and rename

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Evs (talkcontribs)

Please approve and rename my account from Evs to evs.

AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I don't really see the difference? You're also Evs on mediawiki.org... :)

Evs (talkcontribs)

lowercase, please, if possible :)

KHarlan (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I've been seeing this from the WMF office today, both when visiting tasks or when trying to edit/create tasks

TOO MANY REQUESTS You ("{WMF IP}") are issuing too many requests too quickly.

AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Jeroen N (talkcontribs)

Can my Phabricator username be changed from Woodcutterty to Jeroen N to align with my Wikimedia SUL? There seems to be no way to create a new account. Thank you in advance!

AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Jeroen N (talkcontribs)

Sure, that's no problem at all. Thanks!

AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Renamed

n

Get the new task graph on a task with the old graph

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JHernandez (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hi

I have a task (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T169242) with the old task graph, but it is very confusing so I'd like to see the new task graph.

The task has 0 parent tasks and 7 child tasks, but it may be that some task on the task tree is connected to too many things, so https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140326#2460857 happens and we don't draw the new one.

Is there any way to know what is causing the big task graph size to do something about it and manage to get the new task graph? Or may there be other reasons why the old task graph is showing in this task and the child ones?

Wikimedia Commons error login

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Summary by AKlapper (WMF)

This question is not about Phabricator itself, hence off-topic here. See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198525 for the problem. See Manual:How to debug/Login problems for instructions.

Social Studies Rules (talkcontribs)

Hi, my name is Social Studies Rules. I’m trying to login into my Wikimedia Commons Account and after I try logging in it says “Central login, You are centrally logged in. Reload the page to apply your user settings.” This is the first time it happened to me and I don’t know what to do, so I ask if, you please help me get rid of it.

Krenair (talkcontribs)

Did you try reloading the page?

This is not a Phabricator question by the way.

Social Studies Rules (talkcontribs)

Sorry, I pressed reload, nothing happened it just said the entire message again.

Matěj Suchánek (talkcontribs)

What happens when you reload the page? If you are logged in corrently then, this message is not a problem.

Social Studies Rules (talkcontribs)

When I reload, it reads the entire message again, when I go to the login page it just sends me back to the previous page that I was on. When I try to login it just nonstop keeps reloading without me doing anything and then when I try to stop, I get an error message.

Matěj Suchánek (talkcontribs)

Logging out from all Wikimedia projects should help. If not, clear all cookies with "wiki" in title.

Social Studies Rules (talkcontribs)

So I logged out of everything, it didn’t work, can you please tell me how to delete cookies?

Matěj Suchánek (talkcontribs)

Try google "how do I delete cookies" and find instructions for your browser.

Social Studies Rules (talkcontribs)

I cleared out all my cookies, now what do I do

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Matěj Suchánek (talkcontribs)

"Central login" means that you can use the same account on all Wikimedia projects. So when you log in (on Wikipedia) and visit Wikimedia Commons, you'll be automatically be logged there.

You have reported that you're having troubles logging in on Commons. Is it true? If so, I recommended logging out completely and deleting cookies. If not, please provide more information.

Social Studies Rules (talkcontribs)

Can you please explain where do I find to delete these cookies. Can you please send a link of where I should go and then I’ll follow it.

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Matěj Suchánek (talkcontribs)
Social Studies Rules (talkcontribs)

So, I did what you asked I went and deleted cookies and caches, I tried logging in and it didn’t work, now what do I do?

Matěj Suchánek (talkcontribs)

Describe please step by step (all clicks and inputs) how I could reproduce the problem.

Social Studies Rules (talkcontribs)

Ok,


1.) “On your iPhone or iPad, open the Chrome app Chrome. At the top right, tap More More. Tap History and then Clear browsing data. Make sure there’s a check mark next to "Cookies, site data" and "Cached images and files." Tap Clear browsing data” I did that.


2.) Went to Wikipedia, logged in successfully, went to Wikimedia Commons got logged, it says “Central login, You are centrally logged in. Reload the page to apply your user settings”, when I’m logged out of my Wikipedia account and try to log into Wikimedia commons, it says Central user, log in No active login attempt is in progress for your session.


3.) If I go to , I create a diagram, press make my diagram, press Create link for direct upload to Wikimedia Commons. It leads me to the login in page, I try to login, and there’s an error message.

Matěj Suchánek (talkcontribs)

The information that you are not on a computer is new to me. Then I wouldn't waste your time with clearing cookies etc. Unfortunately, I don't own any Apple device...

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Preventing simple vandalism on Phabricator

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Dcljr (talkcontribs)

As I type this, a user who just created their account moments ago is busy on Phabricator changing the names, priorities, assignees, subscribers, and "everything else" on dozens of existing tasks. It should not be so easy for worthless dimwits like this one to do all of this within seconds of creating an account there. Can't Phabricator have the kind of minimal safeguards that Wikimedia content wikis have (where edit rights are initially restricted and gradually accrue as one edits more)? Or is there such a system, but it's too permissive?

Dcljr (talkcontribs)

Oops. I misread the time signature on the account. It's been about 23 hours since it was created. Still…

Jeremyb-phone (talkcontribs)
Jeremyb-phone (talkcontribs)
Fayenatic london (talkcontribs)
Dcljr (talkcontribs)

The user was already marked as "Disabled" as the vandalism was still actively happening. As I was looking at that "User Details" page just before commenting here, it already said "Disabled" and yet dozens of acts of vandalism were still being done by the user. So, I'm not sure what "Disabled" even means in this context…

AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)

That is not correct. If you have an example of a specific action (with a timestamp), please provide a testcase.

Dcljr (talkcontribs)

Well, I know what I saw. As I sat there last night looking at the user's profile page, seeing the word "Disabled" right there, clear as day, I continued to see notifications pop up in the lower left corner, timestamped with the current time. And when I reloaded the homepage, I saw new items from that user in the Activity Feed.

If you're saying this is "not possible", then I can only assume it was due to server lag or something. As for evidence, you can see all the timestamps I can, and you presumably know more about how Phabricator works than I do, so you're in a better position to find evidence one way or the other.

The last action the user made at Phabricator was (as I see it, on the profile page) at "10:14 PM" (this would be America/Chicago timezone, which would make it 3:14am UTC). I was looking at the user's profile well before that: I opened this thread at 1:39am UTC, according to the page history here.

Dcljr (talkcontribs)

Yeah, it must be server lag (or notification lag, or whatever the appropriate term is): the purported final change made by the user, according to the Recent Activity on their profile page was timestamped "Sat, Jun 30, 10:14 PM" (again, in my local timezone), whereas the task page itself lists those changes as happening "Sat, Jun 30, 8:14 PM" (1:14 UTC). So there ya go.

Dcljr (talkcontribs)

And, BTW, the purported first changes are marked "Sat, Jun 30, 8:01 PM" (1:01 UTC).

AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Notifications are indeed server lag. :)

I thought you refer to actual changes in a task that you have seen.

AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Thanks for reporting this. Admins are aware and working on reverting. For discussing potential safeguards, feel free to file a task in Phabricator about Phabricator.

Dcljr (talkcontribs)

Surely these are not the only two options (alluding to Jbp's comments): allow new users to do "everything" or not allow them to do anything until they are "approved" — at which point, they can presumably do "everything", so that seems like a highly problematic solution. (I will note, BTW, that this was an "LDAP User" — as opposed to a "MediaWiki User" — as seen in the link in Fl's comment. Does that mean this person had a developer account??)

As for filing a task (AK), I figured it was likely than anything I could file about this at Phabricator would be duplicating some previous task(s) where such matters had already been discussed. (After all, this is the second such vandalism "streak" I have noticed since I started watching a handful of projects earlier this year.)

My main purpose in posting this here wasn't notification (since there was basically no way my notice about the problem would get to anyone who could do anything about it before the direct evidence of the vandalism itself got to them), and it wasn't to suggest particular solutions (because I don't have the requisite knowledge for that); it was mainly to ask what the hell is going on: what safeguards are currently in place and why they are so ineffective against this kind of simple-minded vandalism? (Perhaps the fact that it was an LDAP account partially answers the latter question?)

That all being said, yes, someone who knows more about the actual workings of Phabricator (like maybe AKlapper?), please do file a task about adding better vandalism-fighting features to the Phabricator, if that has not been done already.

Mainframe98 (talkcontribs)

Developer accounts are accounts those users can obtain by creating an account on wikitech.wikimedia.org. They aren't any more a developer than you or me.

For a task about anti-vandalism features on Phabricator, see T84.

AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Deryck Chan (talkcontribs)

Progress report from the phab ticket: a bot is on the case. There are about 3000 tasks left to restore. Expected runtime is about 30 hours from now.

Dcljr (talkcontribs)

So the user makes 3,800 changes in about 2 hours (max — so they were obviously using a bot!), but a bot can't clean it up in less than a day and a half? That's insane…

ToBeFree (talkcontribs)

There had been no limit before; now there is a limit. For this reason (and because this isn't absolutely urgent), it will take some time to undo it. It would take the same time to vandalize again, preventing this from happening in such an insane dimension again.

Dcljr (talkcontribs)

Just correcting some info I gave above: all the user's edits apparently happened in about 13 minutes! (See comments about "lag" above.)

ToBeFree (talkcontribs)

^ moved above (indent)

List of tasks containing any of pywikibot-* tag and also any of non-pywikibot-* tags

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Dvorapa (talkcontribs)
AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I do not think that a "plus at least one other tag" condition exists. Happy to be proven wrong though. :P

(Might even be a question for upstream at https://discourse.phabricator-community.org/ , now that I think about it.)

Summary by AKlapper (WMF)

Phab account renamed

SUM1 (talkcontribs)

I would like my Phabricator account "SpikeballUnion" renamed to my current Wikimedia username "SUM1". I created it in July 2017 but changed my Wikimedia username in November 2017.

AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Done! :)