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Aschroet (talkcontribs)

Hi all, am i right that currently MW does not support that notifications about changes at the watchlisted articles cannot be sent by HTML mail since (1) the MW core does not support that, (2) the Echo extensions does not cover this kind of events and (3) there is no extension does that for me?

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hi

I receive my watchlist notifications by HTML emails. That's a core feature, not an Echo one.

Aschroet (talkcontribs)

@Trizek (WMF), merci for you answer. I also see those mail coming from Commons, WP etc. but on my local installation i don't. And actually also in the code i do not find where e. g. the HTML-Links to URLs (<a>...</a>) are created. The i18n files only contain plain text.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I'll forward your questions to the developers. :)

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Roan Kattouw (WMF) (talkcontribs)

HTML email is disabled by default, you have to enable it in your configuration with $wgAllowHTMLEmail = true;

Aschroet (talkcontribs)

@Roan Kattouw (WMF), Manual:$wgAllowHTMLEmail says: "As of MW 1.23, HTML email is not yet used by MediaWiki itself." Anyway, i set this parameter to true without effect.

Roan Kattouw (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hmm, you're right. I just looked and watchlist emails coming from Wikipedia don't even use HTML email, so I think that means it's probably not available/implemented anywhere. I'm not aware of an extension that would do this for you.

Jdforrester (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Fixing this (by merging Notifications into core, probably) is tracked as Task 15303.

Aschroet (talkcontribs)

@Roan Kattouw (WMF), when i look at my mails from Wikipedia or Commons then they contain clickable links. Or is that added by the Mail client on my phone? Anyway, i wonder why this is not implemented. Everyone expects to be able to click a link that is coming via mail.

@Trizek (WMF), would be helpful to bring light into the darkness.

Roan Kattouw (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Yes, the clickable links are added by your mail client. I just looked at the raw version of a watchlist email I received recently, and it's plain text, no HTML.

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Enterprisey (talkcontribs)

The API documentation (Notifications/API) claims I can pass in a value of "index" for the "notprop" parameter, but when I try, it says that "index" is an invalid value. Is the documentation wrong, or has the feature been removed, or what?

Legoktm (talkcontribs)

The documentation is outdated, "index" was removed. What are you trying to do? There should be a functional equivalent :)

Enterprisey (talkcontribs)

Oh, good to know! I was trying to get the sentence-long summary for each notification, like ["Example left a message on your talk page", "Example2 thanked you for your edit on SomePage"], and nothing else. I thought notprop=list returned output that was too verbose, but I can parse it if it turns out there isn't a better way.

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Clear all read notifications from the pane

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Jmorgan (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Now that we have a much-improved Special:Notifications page where we can go to view historical notifications, can we get a button to "clear all read notifications" from the Notifications Pane? I currently have a month's worth of read Flow notifications in my pane, and it makes for a pretty long list—currently about 3x the height of my browser window. I don't need these anymore; if I want to see who pinged me three weeks ago, I can go to the Notifications page.

Quiddity (WMF) (talkcontribs)

The panel(s) always list a maximum of 25 notifications (including various combinations of bundled, read, and unread, but prioritizing unread).

If I understand correctly, you want a way to remove all read notifications from the panel(s), effectively like an email client's "archive" functionality.

That seems like a reasonable feature-request, though the required UI would add additional complexity, which might be considered undesirable. I suggest you file it as a phab task, but I would guess it would be triaged as lowest priority for staff-development time. HTH.

Jmorgan (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Sounds reasonable. Thanks, @Quiddity (WMF)

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Why am I not getting notifications for watchlist changes?

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Thennicke (talkcontribs)

Hello all,

I've got nearly everything ticked in my Commons notifications preferences and yet I'm not receiving notifications when pages in my Commons watchlist are changed - I have to go to the watchlist itself and look there at what has been happening. Why is this? I'd rather get a notification when things change on my watchlist.

Thank you in advance :)

Matěj Suchánek (talkcontribs)

Notifications are a complement to the watchlist, they do not replace it but enhance.

Thennicke (talkcontribs)

Thanks. Well that's rather unfortunate. I really think it would make me a lot more productive on-wiki if I could just have that as an option. I regularly forget to check my watchlist and miss things. And with watchlist filters activated, it's not as though I'd be spammed with unimportant notifications.

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194.59.120.161 (talkcontribs)

Hi everyone, not sure that this is the rigth page for asking this question, but i wonder why i only get plain text mail from Mediawiki without clickable links. Can i change that with a single configuration value or is it needed to modify the code for that?

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Some emails providers break links on plain-text notifications. On which notification(s) do you experience that issue? Can you check that task description and tell me if you experience the same issue?

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How to notify a user within the ZU WP

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Summary last edited by Deborahjay 19:00, 14 September 2017 2 months ago

> problem solved, I think.

'''OP''' - I still don't understand why the ping (my preference) doesn't work. Does the ZU WP need the ping (or other notification) Template imported?

Deborahjay (talkcontribs)

How can I use the notifications, e.g. ping, within the Zulu Wikipedia? Every template and syntax I've tried doesn't produce results. Is the ZU WP missing a/the template itself? If so, how to remedy this? -- ~~~~

MarcoAurelio (talkcontribs)

If you want, for example, to notify me on zu.wikipedia, be sure that:

  • you link to the user page of the user to mention
  • your message is signed

To wit, if you want to notify me, you'd use [[User:MarcoAurelio]] <message here> --~~~~

Unsigned messages won't trigger a notification and also trying to "ping" many users at once will result in none being notified.

Regards.

Deborahjay (talkcontribs)

Thanks for the rapid turnaround, MarcoAurelio! This is a form unfamiliar to me, so I'll be glad to try it today.

MarcoAurelio (talkcontribs)

No problem. Please see Extension:Echo#Usage for the mentioning of users. Regards.

Quiddity (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Deborahjay: Yes, to make the templates work you'll need to create them at Zuwiki. I suggest copying the source from here (Template:Reply_to) because it is a lot simpler than the Lua modules used at Enwiki.

Note: the template is just a simple way to make [[user:foo|foo]] links. The only things you need to create a mention are a user-link and a signature, plus avoiding a few complexities which are explained at Help:Notifications/Notifications_types#Mentions.

Deborahjay (talkcontribs)

Thanks, also for the link to that Help page. I'll do so (though probably tomorrow morning when I'm more alert) :-)

Quiddity (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Sounds good! And to correct my mistake above, yes, you should "import" the page if you can (or can find an admin to do so), or if you cannot then you should properly attribute the origin by linking to the mediawiki page in your edit-summary (or on the talkpage) at Zuwiki. :)

Deborahjay (talkcontribs)

Aha, these are valuable instructions. While the ZU WP has no Admin, we current active users are well-supported by Small Wiki Monitor User:DARIO SEVERI who's a constant resource; we've been in regular contact since I came on board in late July to undertake maintenance tasks. Cheers!

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Feature request: "Mark all unread notifications as read" available without JavaScript

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Summary last edited by Roan Kattouw (WMF) 20:36, 17 August 2017 3 months ago

Fixed and deployed

Sophus Bie (talkcontribs)

I just came back from a long wikibreak, and it became suddenly very apparent that the ability to mark *all* notifications as read in one click is not available in the JavaScript free version of Special:Notifications. (Unless I'm missing something?)

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

There is no solution at the moment to mark all discussions as read unless by using JavaScript. The task has just been claimed, I hope some changes will happen soon.

Roan Kattouw (WMF) (talkcontribs)

This is now done, thanks to @MtDu. It'll roll out next week (Aug 15-17, depending on the wiki)

Roan Kattouw (WMF) (talkcontribs)

This feature has now rolled out on all wikis.

Dcljr (talkcontribs)

I guess this is where I complain about this…

Recently the notification "New beta feature available for this page" started appearing for users visiting pages like Special:RecentChanges, Special:NewPages, etc. Unfortunately, since it was implemented as a separate notification on each individual wiki (which I suppose makes some kind of sense, since users may want it on one wiki they work on but not another), users who regularly visit such pages on many different wikis are forced to accept or decline it repeatedly. There doesn't seem to be an option to "never give me this notification again, regardless of what wiki I'm on" (or, conversely, "turn this on everywhere").

I help track article-count milestones at m:Wikimedia News and w:Wikipedia:Milestone statistics, so I have reason to check things like "Special:NewPages" on different Wikimedia wikis pretty much every day. This means I will potentially have to decline to use this feature hundreds of times (there are over 800 Wikimedia wikis).

I assume there is a time limit on how long these notifications will go on (I don't know), but in the meantime, is there a solution to this problem?

Mattflaschen-WMF (talkcontribs)

Unfortunately, until we have global preferences, we're not aware of a clean solution to this problem.

In the meantime, if you wish, you may ignore the invite entirely on your non-primary wikis.

You don't need to click dismiss. It won't show more than once.

(Also, it does not show for Special:NewPages).

Quiddity (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Re: "You don't need to click dismiss. It won't show more than once."

To clarify: You do not need to move the mouse to click the link in the popup -- you can just click anywhere on the page, and it will vanish.

Mattflaschen-WMF (talkcontribs)

Even if you don't click anything, it still won't show on the next page view.

Dcljr (talkcontribs)

Your points are well taken, but of course they only apply per wiki, which means I'll still have to see it (up to) 800 more times, which is supremely annoying — even if I don't "need to" do anything in response. (BTW, I regularly open other pages, like Special:RecentChanges and Special:Log, where it does pop up.)

WhatamIdoing (talkcontribs)

It's the same problem that we get with the CentralNotice banners. We need global prefs. Perhaps something for the next m:Community Wishlist ?

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Global preferences where on the top 10 of Community wishes for the last Community Wishlist round.

Would it be possible to have a hack on Special:Global.js to avoid those pop-ups?

Mattflaschen-WMF (talkcontribs)

@Trizek (WMF) Good idea, but it only kind of works. It will work if you visit a page before Special:RecentChanges, but not if you go directly there as the first visit to the site.

This goes at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/global.js :

	if ( Number( mw.user.options.get( 'rcenhancedfilters-seen-invite' ) ) !== 1 ) {
		mw.loader.using( 'mediawiki.api.options' ).done( function () {
			var api = new mw.Api();
			api.saveOption( 'rcenhancedfilters-seen-invite', 1 );
		} );
	}
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Notifications for editing your user page or subpage

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Janezdrilc (talkcontribs)

I miss notifications if someone edited my user page or subpage.

Quiddity (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hi, that feature-request is one of the oldest, and tracked at Phab:T3876. (Note, that task tracks the request from many years before the current Notifications feature existed (circa 2012), so don't be confused by the older comments which are about the "emailed notifications for changes to pages on my watchlist" feature, technically "enotif").

It's one of the many proposed new notification types. I'll add a comment there, noting your interest here. No action is needed from you. Thanks!

Janezdrilc (talkcontribs)

It occured I've got an award a month ago on my "awards subpage" and I somehow missed this edit, so I unfortunately also "missed" to thank the user. That's the reason of my proposal.

Thanks for linking me on phab.

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MyWiki email doesn't play well with Earthlink

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J.Benal (talkcontribs)

Another user creating an account for me made several tries using my primary email address, earthlink.net domain name. No notification ever arrived (yes, I checked my spam folder every time). Gmail notification worked.

Once I had an account established, I changed the email address back to my primary. Again, no notifications. (And, incidentally, my original username and pw stopped working as soon as I changed the email; I made a new account just to post this problem.)

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hey J.Benal

 

Sorry for the late reply.

When you mean "GMail notification worked", that's because you have switched back to GMail or something else?

You email change case is weird too. Your former account is inaccessible? Did you tried to confirm your email adresse when you have changed? I guess you have tried to reset the password? Maybe the resetting email is in you spam folder (I'm asking just in case)?

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