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Mhare (talkcontribs)
AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Cannot reproduce in Firefox. After setting Bosnian as my language, your link goes to the Bosnian version of help.

What are your Language settings in Special:Preferences ? Are they set to Bosnian?

Mhare (talkcontribs)

I tested as unregistered user, to simulate new user clicking the help link. It leads me to again to English site. It is correct that if you set explicitly your language in setting that it will go to correct page. That is not ideal, and it might discourage new users. All computer that I have tried from have Bosnian input settings and other related language settings.

AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)

What are your exact language settings in the settings of your web browser?

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Are you using the "Special:MyLanguage" link at bs.wikipedia.org? Maybe it would be better to send people straight to the translated subpage (Help:VisualEditor/User guide/bs).

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Andre, I don't think that web browser language settings matter. Unless users have intentionally changed their GlobalPrefs, then the second they arrive at mw.org, their language is re-set to English. The default UI language for this wiki is English, even if you are arriving at this wiki by clicking on a link at a wiki in another language.

Mhare (talkcontribs)

Hi,

Sorry for late reply.

Whatamidoing, yes, we use "Special:MyLanguage" link. I agree, I will recommend our administrators that they set link in that way. I found out that web browser language made no difference. Another thing is, that most bosnians here, just use software in english language, because they can't find their way if it's translated :)

Thanks for help!

Mhare (talkcontribs)

Our sysop asks where exactly he can change this link. Link is located in editing mode, where question mark icon is, and text is "Read the user guide"

AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)

The link is defined in "visualeditor-help-link". The translation which is used for all and any MediaWiki users (also outside of Wikimedia sites) who use Bosnian as their language setting is defined and translated in https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=MediaWiki:visualeditor-help-link/bs&action=edit and you likely do not want to change that.

MediaWiki allows custom overrides of user interface text on a per-website basis. For the "Bosnian Wikipedia" website, such a custom override would have to be defined in https://bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Visualeditor-help-link

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apierror-visualeditor-docserver-http-error: (curl error: 28)

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83.150.41.60 (talkcontribs)

What could be the problem?

Are there some common problems I have to take a look at it?

Im running a xampp Webserver (Windows Server 2016).

37.117.153.247 (talkcontribs)

I have the same error.......I tried all but still have this problem

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)
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Davey2010 (talkcontribs)

Hi, Is there a way I can remove multiple wikilinks from a table ?, At present I can only seem to do one link at a time, Thanks, ~~~~

Davey2010 (talkcontribs)

Resolved - Used the clear formatting tool, Thanks ~~~~

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I thought that "clear formatting" wasn't supposed to remove links.

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Is there some way to use visual editor to replace an image with another whilst maintaining the formatting?

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John Cummings (talkcontribs)

Hi

I'm trying to think of ways to create easy to use templates for photo essays for the Wiki Loves competitions. If I created a template with placeholder images with special formatting (e.g larger than normal and in galleries with no borders) and placeholder text, is there an easy way to replace the placeholder images in VE?

I mean something like this https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:John_Cummings/WLE_photo_essay_template

Thanks

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

If you use exactly that (not a {{template}}, but that gallery code itself), then the users could remove the old images and insert new ones. Switch to the visual mode and try it out on your page to see what I mean.

How soon do you need this? The team isn't really working on galleries right now, but it might be possible to convince them to add a "Change image" button (assuming that it's not much extra work).

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Stryn (talkcontribs)

I changed it because now there are both words, and would be better to use one of them anywhere to make it consistent.

Jdforrester (WMF) (talkcontribs)
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Translation: Thesauri broken? Help:VisualEditor/User guide/198

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Omotecho (talkcontribs)

The translated page shows error to me: Could you have a look please? "$formula-title" shows correct on translation module ja, however it;

  • displays on the Help page in ja as; ページに数式を新たに追加するには、挿入したい場所にカーソルを置き、ツールバーの「挿入」メニュー上の「⧼math-visualeditor-mwmathinspector-title⧽」アイコン(「Σ」)をクリックします。
  • I expect to see 数式 instead of ⧼math-visualeditor-mwmathinspector-title⧽.
AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)

If the code was broken, it'd appear broken in English as well, AFAIK? So: either the translations are featuring an old one that has in the meantime been replaced, or there's been some mistake in the tagging process that, if resolved and page was remarked for translation, would probably fix the issue?

Omotecho (talkcontribs)

I see. So it means;

  1. nothing to do with double-byte languages like ja, ko, and zh? They show the same error.
  2. how a translator know what is causing such display error?
  3. can I leave as is and maybe it will be mended someday with a bot or auto-updated?

On translation.net, as a translator, it is not accessible if there had been any update in the source which is not sorted out nor flagged with system message noting “there is outdated string for update” or such; in this case, the particular source in Translation.../ja does not show it has been updated to date.

Jdforrester (WMF) (talkcontribs)

The message is now math-visualeditor-mwmathdialog-title not math-visualeditor-mwmathinspector-title (and has been for a while). I think the translation is out of date. I null edited the page, purged it, remarked it for translation, and re-confirmed the Japanese translation of unit 198, and now it appears correctly. Sorry for this!

Please don's split parentheses pair among source

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Omotecho (talkcontribs)

My update true to your change causes problem and labeled as "need update"; error message as follows has persisted before saving the translation; "There is an uneven amount of parenthesis: (): 1". I am afraid while the translation is true to your change, the translation system does not accept such update/change.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)
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wrong direction text

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Summary by Elitre (WMF)
Dchmelik (talkcontribs)

I haven't enabled another language than English, but the editor tends to move my cursor from right to left, if I'm editing the middle of a line.

Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Can you provide a more specific description of the issue you're seeing? How to report a bug can help you with that. Thanks.

Dchmelik (talkcontribs)

I meant right to left.

Malyacko (talkcontribs)

That sounds all good to me, as English is a Left-to-Right language.

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Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

What's your web browser and operating system? Does this happen on all pages or just one?

Dchmelik (talkcontribs)

Slackware GNU/Linux, various web browsers (not all Mozilla,) all pages.

Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Can you please at least confirm on which wiki this is happening? Thanks.

Dchmelik (talkcontribs)

at least Wikipedia

Malyacko (talkcontribs)

Which of the 300 Wikipedias? :) Please also see How to report a bug for hints how to provide steps to reproduce - thanks!

Dchmelik (talkcontribs)

Just Wikipedia... didn't say I use one of the 299 new (subdomain) ones; stated my language at a top

ESanders (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Can you describe in a bit more detail exactly what is going wrong, as I'm not sure I follow?

Dchmelik (talkcontribs)

I read 'how to report a bug' and there's basically nothing more to say. This has been happening for months/years, so maybe across several versions of the Visual Editor, though I don't edit as much as in the 2000s, so unsure how many years this has been going on. There are no more details other than obviously, I was typing on a line (what else would I be doing?) and the text was moving from right to left. It just seems to happen randomly, but a lot, like if I edit a huge article with things to add to several sections, the text direction will shift maybe 50% of the time... and they're not articles with Hebrew or Japanese, etc. Sometimes I was able to retry writing in the text a different way, then eventually it worked. I went to that test2 site but just can't edit it, so this is apparently all I can say.

Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)

"I haven't enabled another language than English" definitely doesn't mean "I only edit the English Wikipedia". On en.wiki, click on the gear next to "Languages" in the left sidebar. Those are the Universal_Language_Selector settings. Both display and input ones should be pointing to English (actually the input one should be disabled, I think).

This said, on the English Wikipedia, this is your only edit with the visual editor ever. So, one idea is that you could mean that the problem is about the 2017 wikitext editor instead, as that's the one you seem to be using regularly (although this may or may not make a difference). To see whether this changes anything, you could go into your Beta preferences at en.wp, unselect both "Automatically enable all new beta features" and "New wikitext mode", save, and see if the shifting issue also occurs with the older wikitext editor you are using now.

There are several other things that we may suggest if this doesn't solve. However, it requires a bit of patience and collaboration. For example, you could have suggested a single article where the issue always happens, state at which point specifically you started editing, etc. You could also have tried in a sandbox and saved the final result. The amount of details may look irrelevant to you, but it's what helps others figure out what is happening. (Just looking at your previous contributions there doesn't help much, sadly.)

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Better edit the link message

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Summary by Omotecho

Case solved. Sorry, went around and put the [1] clause into " " equivalent in ja. No change to the clause itself.

Omotecho (talkcontribs)

[My translation does not make sense showing [1] in the output. Why can't we use Example Domain or "External links without labels look like this: [http://example.com Sample/Example Domain]." for translation source so that other lang could translate accordingly.

Stryn (talkcontribs)
Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I've finally found the new version, and added it. It's been a long while since this was updated.

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