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Thanks for your work on WikiShare, an idea whose time has come!

Extension:WikiShare

Please keep me posted on your progress, so we can explore possible collaborations as this project develops.

Fabrice Florin Product manager New editor engagement Wikimedia fflorin@wikimedia.org Fabrice Florin 21:54, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

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Contents

Thread titleRepliesLast modified
Giving gifts + extension developer support117:04, 12 January 2013
Invited to join MediaWiki Group Promotion318:44, 11 January 2013
Automatic updates of Extension infoboxes007:37, 23 November 2012
Start Point Extension Candidate: MultiUpload 017:31, 30 July 2012
AddThis doesn't show on Safari021:23, 19 July 2012
help please007:07, 12 July 2012
2012_Q1_Extension_Page_Review_Drive013:41, 31 May 2012
Did my first template for the page review022:01, 14 May 2012
AddThis bar collapased by default114:13, 15 April 2012
Wikipedia Stories Project000:41, 12 April 2012
Automatic taxobox104:17, 29 March 2012
Extension 'addthis' stop working on firefox214:13, 15 March 2012
Subversion trunk locked220:39, 5 March 2012
Extensions for corporate wikis014:40, 17 February 2012
Page drive223:47, 25 January 2012
why "third-party"323:29, 30 December 2011
Thank you for the wafels400:08, 22 December 2011
Help from WP407:09, 6 December 2011

Giving gifts + extension developer support

It has been a while, so revisit this when you get the chance: User:Badon#Giving gifts to Project?

Badon (talk)04:58, 12 January 2013

Yeah - I think enough time has passed and enough ideas have been discussed that we can safely do something and not worry too much about backlash.  :) I think it would be appropriate to add a page to the Extensions WikiProject are outlining how to request donations and including the info about Amazon wish lists, etc. Maybe add an area to the Extensions template for a donation link - ideally to a section on that page with donation info. My hunch is that if we take this approach, it will not be perceived as official WMF action and we can avoid the headaches of them appearing to be sanctioning the services that developers use to solicit donations. Maybe add a "disclaimer" somewhere stating that these are specific to each developer and not coordinated by or through WMF - or something along those lines that helps address any concerns of "did WMF know that PayPal does XYZ bad thing and now they're using it to solicit developer donations - damn them!" or whatever related hubbub folks prone to complain may find.  :)

Varnent (talk)(COI)17:04, 12 January 2013
 

Invited to join MediaWiki Group Promotion

Thank you for all your work promoting MediaWiki in various forms. You are invited to join the MediaWiki Group Promotion (proposed, waiting for official approval). We are just starting, your questions or feedback about the group itself are priceless.  :)

Qgil (talk)17:48, 11 January 2013

Thank you for thinking of me and for the invite. I would be happy to both help and join as a promoter. I added myself to the members list - feel free to move it to promoters if you think you need help in that area. I love the idea - so anything I can do to help - just let me know. Thanks!

Varnent (talk)(COI)17:58, 11 January 2013

Yes, I do need help as promoter-of-the-promotion group ;) and yes I welcome you as co-promoter of the group. Just move your entry to the promoters area adding a short description about yourself. Thank you VERY much!

Qgil (talk)18:15, 11 January 2013

Done - I look forward to working with you on this.  :)

Varnent (talk)(COI)18:44, 11 January 2013
 
 
 

Automatic updates of Extension infoboxes

Hello Varnent, you may be interested in this: [1]. I don't know if extending the Extension matrix bot functionalities is the way to go or something else may be more feasible.

Nemo07:37, 23 November 2012

Start Point Extension Candidate: MultiUpload

Greetings;

This request is for a specific extension to be inducted as the official start point extension for the 2012 Q2 Extension Page Review Drive.

The extension, Extension:MultiUpload does meet outstanding criterion to be used as a candidate for completion extension for 2012 Q2 Extension Page Review Drive inclusion into the GIT repository and default MW install program. In fairness to other candidate nominees, a vote amongst all standing participants of the Page Drive project should be considered.

Argument In Favor

The aforementioned extension is presently not maintained and has various attributes that are vital to the core MW program. Using it as a start point would allow multiple authors the opportunity to participate in its clean up campaign and help to create a permanent kernel rating for future candidates to emulate.

With all due respects, this proposed extension should be targeted for at least a 2012 Q2/Q3 Extension Page Review Drive passing qualification rating and final code execution submitted to GIT repository by the conclusion of the Q2/Q3 session.

This is an official solicitation to nominate an extension. Your response is requested.

Habatchii (talk)17:31, 30 July 2012

AddThis doesn't show on Safari

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Last edit: 21:23, 19 July 2012

Hello,

AddThis doesn't show the "addthis bar" in Safari (only Share link). On FireFox, the addthis bar is shown but the HeaderTabs extension doesn't run (Only the first tab is shown). Indeed, on IE, Safari, the tabs generated by Headertabs extension are shown. You can see the result on www.wikideb.org.

Best regards.

Pascal Beaujeant Pascal.Beaujeant@uclouvain.be

130.104.118.7412:06, 16 July 2012

help please

Hi,
I am ahmed. I made a very simple extenstion. I really don't know what next is. I don't know what tests I should do to make it something better than experimental. And the message about writing the code in the page. if you don't mind, I need some help please.

أحمد ش الشيخ (talk)07:07, 12 July 2012

2012_Q1_Extension_Page_Review_Drive

what do i need to do to join the 2012_Q1_Extension_Page_Review_Drive and put the things up?

i already added a lot of {{extension code in wiki}} also, i archived some pages already.

how do i join?

~~ Pokeswap (talk) Pokeswap (talk) 13:41, 31 May 2012 (UTC) 13:41, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Pokeswap (talk)13:41, 31 May 2012

Did my first template for the page review

Extension:TemplateTable

If you have time to review and comment on anything I missed, please do.

Schalice (talk)22:01, 14 May 2012

AddThis bar collapased by default

Hi, The bar is collapsed by default and I need to click on "Share" to access the addthis full links page, then go forward and this time, the bar is expanded... Isn't there any option/trick to change this default behavior? Thank you so much for your support.

88.177.83.6721:38, 14 April 2012

That's a good idea! I'll add that to the upcoming features list.  :)

Varnent (talk)14:13, 15 April 2012
 

Wikipedia Stories Project

Hi!

My name is Victor and I'm a storyteller with the Wikimedia Foundation. I'm chronicling the inspiring stories of the Wikipedia community around the world, including those from readers, editors, and donors. Stories are absolutely essential for any non-profit to persuade people to support the cause, and we know the vast network of people who make and use Wikipedia have so much to share.

Rob Lanphier suggested that I speak with you about the development side of Wikipedia.

I'd very much like the opportunity to interview you to tell your story, with the possibility of using it in our materials, on our community websites, or as part of this year’s fundraiser to encourage others to support Wikipedia. Please let me know if you're inclined to take part in the Wikipedia Stories Project.

Thank you for your time,

Victor Grigas

user:Victorgrigas

vgrigas@wikimedia.org

Vgrigas (talk) 00:41, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Vgrigas (talk)00:41, 12 April 2012

Automatic taxobox

I have a doubt regarding the taxobox. The thing is should it be developed using only Javascript?

We can design maybe a small app using python and django to a major extent.

Cheers, Ashwin

122.172.198.5619:32, 28 March 2012

What would be the best approach for the creation of a widget?

Varnent (talk)04:17, 29 March 2012
 

Extension 'addthis' stop working on firefox

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Last edit: 09:24, 9 March 2012

hi, the extension just write 'share' with firefox, it still working on chrome...

ldi3809:24, 9 March 2012

It looks like AddThis is changing something in their scripts - I'll look into it this weekend.

Varnent (talk)15:34, 10 March 2012
 

Appears that AddThis is done with whatever they were doing and the script is working again.  :)

Varnent (talk)14:13, 15 March 2012
 

Subversion trunk locked

Hi,

svn: Working copy '/mnt/upload6/private/ExtensionDistributor/mw-snapshot/trunk/extensions' locked

I wanted to help with the extension review, but this is killing it for me...

Schalice (talk)21:32, 4 March 2012

Don't bother with ExtensionDistributor. Even when it's not locked, it's usually out of date. Try checking out a copy of the extension from SVN instead.

Reach Out to the Truth (talk)00:50, 5 March 2012

Exactly.  :)

Varnent (talk)20:39, 5 March 2012
 
 

Extensions for corporate wikis

Hi! On the IRC channel #Mediawiki sumanah told me to contact you since I'm writing an extension for my department wiki. I'll tell you more if you are interested, just E-mail me.

MikaelLindmark (talk)14:40, 17 February 2012

Page drive

Hi Varnent, I have already started to tidy up some extensions pages and make them more comprehensive/appealing. However I just realise that I am the only one. Is the official start still to take place? Cheers

[[kgh]]21:01, 24 January 2012

I'm out of town for a conference until next week and plan on pushing a "launch" of it then. Although I'm still contemplating the best ways to do that. Any input would be appreciated.  :)

Varnent20:54, 25 January 2012

So I am early. :) I guess a post to the mailing list, a regular note in IRC and asking the well interconnected ones of the participants to advertise for it. It is very difficult to mobilise people. Happy conferencing. Cheers

[[kgh]]23:47, 25 January 2012
 
 

why "third-party"

Not a big deal I guess but why "third-party wikis" - I have my own wiki, isn't that a "second-party wiki"? I'm not sure this is really that much clearer than "non-Wikimedia Foundation wikis" which seemed pretty clear to me. Just wondering why you're making this change.

Doug.(talk contribs)22:42, 29 December 2011

There was a lot of IRC discussion on how to refer to non-WMF wikis. I'm of the mindset that we need to be consistent in our use of terminology across the manual for ease of reading. The Manual:Glossary#Third-party definition references the chats where "third-party wiki" was discussed as the most commonly used existing term by WMF and core developers. While I'm not personally convinced "third-party" is the best possible term, I've conceded it makes the most sense at this point. I also tend to feel that any term with "WMF" is both longer and too "WMF-centric" - which is a complaint I've heard from folks and have made myself about MW documentation.

As to why third-party over second-party - the IRC transcript has a good excerpt by Ryan Lane: "wmf is a first party user. we create the software. everyone else that uses it is third party". Basically a reference to the technical terminology of third party that any non-orginal owner (WMF) or primary consumer (enWP, etc.) is then third-party (non-WMF wikis). Also consistent with how we refer to "third-party extensions" in the documentation and home page.

I'm certainly open to feedback on better terms to use - but do think there should be consistent use of the terms and for now, "third-party wiki" seems to be it.

Varnent23:20, 29 December 2011

Thanks for the reply - makes (some) sense. ;-) I'm good with it for now - so long as we keep the redirects in place, I don't really care (there are incoming links from meta). Hmm, this e-mail link worked the one on Project:support didn't, these LQT links are inconsistent. :-\

Doug.(talk contribs)11:49, 30 December 2011

Not ideal - but like I said - I favor consistency and am totally open for discussion on a better term.

Varnent23:29, 30 December 2011
 
 
 

Thank you for the wafels

Tasty, aren't they?! Cheers

[[kgh]]21:39, 16 December 2011

lol - indeed - although I just noticed the WikiLove extension doesn't seem to like the LiquidThreads...hmmmm

Varnent23:41, 17 December 2011

I guess this will be fixed with LQTv3.0 whenever this may come to reality. I am touching wood.

[[kgh]]21:40, 19 December 2011

Amusingly enough, it's apparently more complex than that - lol: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33260

Varnent06:04, 21 December 2011

Ah, I see, at least this does not seem to be on the back burner as LQT 3.0 is. Cheers

[[kgh]]00:08, 22 December 2011
 
 
 
 

Help from WP

Hi, do you know that everything in our Help namespace must be PD, while the WP content you're importing is CC-BY-SA?

Max Semenik06:32, 6 December 2011

I'm not a copyright lawyer - does it qualify for PD once its trimmed and references to WP related areas are removed? Seems like a waste to have to write all help documents from stretch when there is a good base of wording available to be tweaked.

Varnent06:37, 6 December 2011

No, the text has to be completely rewritten, see w:Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing. Sorry, I'm deleting all these pages.

Max Semenik06:55, 6 December 2011

That's a rather annoying hassle. No wonder the help section is so stagnant. Can they be placed in the Project namespace or somewhere to help folks using this wiki? Or outreach to the original authors of the help page to seek permission to release into PD? Seems like a waste of time to duplicate work already done elsewhere and using a similar free license.

Varnent07:01, 6 December 2011
 

Ah well - either way I'll maybe come back to those later - not sure how eager I am to reinvent the wheel.  :) Thank you for catching it so quick.

Varnent07:09, 6 December 2011