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Latest comment: 12 years ago by Svippong in topic Thanks for your work

Dear Svippong, Welcome to MediaWiki.org!

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Thanks, and regards, --Jack Phoenix (Contact) 21:41, 22 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

NaturalLanguageList ideas[edit]

Options are still slightly confusing, ideas:

  • rename itemcover=/itemoutput= to format= - easier to remember.
  • calculate fieldsperitem from format= - one less thing for the user to type. (should be possible to count the $i's)
  • make duplicates default to false, that way any value passed to duplicates=/blanks= can be treated as true (saves having to parse a boolean option in all languages)
  • (possibly: change separator= to comma= and lastseparator= to and= - easier to type and more fun :)
  • change #data: to data=, and #ignore: to ignore= (i.e. the user has to say |ignore=a|ignore=b) easier for us to process and less surprising than "magic" syntax (maybe also less pretty though).

Feel free to ignore me completely or partly, I always waste too much time on trivial choices. Conrad.Irwin 03:09, 24 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

Let me comment on your suggestions in the same order.
  • I agree, it is a better choice. Even as just 'format' (rather than perhaps 'itemformat'), it is less ambiguous than say 'output'.
  • Good idea, but keep the fieldsperitem option in case some users want to force it through (say, if a template returns the $n characters to be parsed on later).
  • See, originally duplicates and blanks defaulted to true, but I realised that in more cases than not would people prefer duplicates set to true rather than false. In addition, I am still not convinced that translation of the options is what we need (certainly not the case for many other extension's hooks and parser functions).
  • Maybe as extra names, I like the others as internal representation.
  • Hmmm... the jury is still out on that one. It has its arguments - yes, but the original reason to use a different syntax was to highlight their difference, but if one for each field is not required, then perhaps it makes sense. As an additional suggestion; when used with {{#rawlist:}}, perhaps it should be possible to use |ignore= in the same manner (i.e. with a separator like the input data), in case they have a template that actually returns the ignore data as well.
They are not all bad suggestions, actually, but I am feeling a middle ground can be found several places. --Svippong 07:13, 24 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

And here is your diff.

As you will notice, I did not attend bullet 3 and 5. Not because I am fundamentally against them, I just feel they are big changes. Though, given its lessen distribution as of now, we should perform the big changes for now. Your fieldsperitem/format idea was cool though. --Svippong 09:49, 24 March 2010 (UTC)Reply


In your page/code: AdditionalTabs I attempted the modification to SkinTemplate.php, and it did not work. I am running the latest version of mediawiki, and i think that may be why but wanted to be sure and ask the pro who came up with it. Does that portion still work or does it need to be edited for newer release of mediawiki?

It needs to be updated, yes. I have not been looking at it for almost a year, due to lack of interest, but maybe now I might look into it. --Svippong 23:23, 25 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

Package Force translation[edit]

Can you commment on [1] thanks. – Nikerabbit 10:47, 1 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

I think people should not translate these messages yet. Is there a good way to make a note of that? --Svippong 10:58, 1 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your work[edit]

Just wanted to thank you for all your past contributions to MediaWiki. I noticed you're into some parser-related stuff, so I thought I might alert you that the parser email list is more active now than it used to be.

Best, Sumanah 05:21, 7 November 2011 (UTC) Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia FoundationReply

Uh thanks for that. When I read the title, I was beginning to suspect I was thrown out or something. --Svippong 10:21, 7 November 2011 (UTC)Reply
Gosh, I'm sorry for that impression. I had just seen Special:Code/MediaWiki/author/svip and was grateful for your code!
Are you thinking of coming to any MediaWiki developer meetings this fall? It would be great to have you. Sumanah 13:22, 7 November 2011 (UTC)Reply
Mmm... I'm afraid I won't be able to make it. I am trying to keep down on my expendures for the time being (in bit of economic troubles unrelated! to the current crisis), so unless it came to Copenhagen, Denmark, I must decline for now. -- 13:31, 7 November 2011 (UTC)Reply
Ugh, forget to log in. --Svippong 13:40, 7 November 2011 (UTC)Reply