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Discussion on "Understanding first day (7)"

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MMiller (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Arthur Crbz (talkcontribs)

Support if it's done for research purpose, during a limited time and with the appropriate privacy policy.

John Broughton (talkcontribs)

Sounds like a great idea, provided proper privacy controls are in place. Something as simply as anonymizing the user history (for example, for the user name - wherever it appears, including links - substituting "23August2018-NNN"), plus discarding cases after 30 days ("lessons learned" information would be retained, of course) should be adequate.

Bencemac (talkcontribs)

Support Looks like an interesting project, I am curious.

Kerry Raymond (talkcontribs)

Yes, it would be very nice to know what they do. A cheaper way to experiment would be to email any of them who supplied an email address and simply ask them why they created an account X days ago but did not appear to contribute. I say "appear" as they may have thought they did! It's probably a good idea to offer help at that point.

So you might get some good quality data from simply asking. And avoids the effort of instrumenting things (which has some performance cost).

علاء (talkcontribs)

It sound good, I like it.

I noticed that several of them try to edit, and stopped by Abusefilters, then logout and not back again.

Pine (talkcontribs)

Support

Jetam2 (talkcontribs)

Torn between knowing more and giving expected privacy, even if annonymized. With low-traffic wikis like ours it may still say quite a bit about the user(s).

MMiller (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Thank you all for weighing in on this "Understanding first day" idea. Our team discussed all the feedback, and I've summarized it here. We're now figuring out whether to pursue this idea, and we'll be back to discuss more if we decide to work on it (please sign up for our newsletter to get updates on our plans).

A quick question for @علاء -- how do you notice when people are stopped by Abuse Filters? Is there a good way to monitor or gather data on that?

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