Topic on Help talk:Extension:Linter

Summary by SSastry (WMF)

The linter extension now displays a prominent note that the counts are estimates, not actual numbers.

Adithyak1997 (talkcontribs)

Has the problem of non updation of wikipedia pages fixed?I am now able to update many of the pages and the sub list is getting updated but the page Secial:Lint errors is not getting updated.

Bdijkstra (talkcontribs)

Those things are unrelated. The counts on the main page do not update immediately, maybe an hour at most.

Adithyak1997 (talkcontribs)

No. It usually gets updated within seconds.Only in one or two cases it updated later. I have checked it for many days.

SSastry (WMF) (talkcontribs)

@Bdijkstra is correct. (a) the counts are cached and so, they won't update immediately (b) if a category has lots of errors (beyond a few thousand, I assume), we report estimated counts and not actual counts. So, for one or both reasons, you may not see the counts updated.

MarcoSwart (talkcontribs)

To me this is not a big issue, but the answer by @SSastry (WMF) is not what I see a the moment. At Dutch Wiktionary we only have small numbers of errors left. On Tuesday March 6 at 00:40 CET I fixed 2 missing end tags, which was reflected immediately on the subpage, but at the moment, 48 hours later, the main page Speciaal:LintErrors is still showing the old number.

SSastry (WMF) (talkcontribs)
MarcoSwart (talkcontribs)

When I view this page "Afsluitende tag ontbreekt" (=missing end tags) is still showing "10", but when I click that link only 8 pages (the correct number) are shown. Is there a way I can 'purge the cache' of this Special page?

MarcoSwart (talkcontribs)

The Special page https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Speciaal:LintErrors was updated around this evening, Sunday March 10, around 19:00 CET, after about 138 hours. There was a new, recent error which I corrected and I will let you know when this shows up on the Special page. Again: the subpage is working fine, so in our case it is not really a problem.

SSastry (WMF) (talkcontribs)

@MarcoSwart .. this could also be related to the fact that we no longer generate actual counts, but use estimated counts. I assumed that estimated counts will be accurate for small values under 1000 or so, but that may have been an incorrect assumption.

MarcoSwart (talkcontribs)

That is is probably the correct explanation. I vaguely remember an announcement stating something like this before I started seeing a delay in updates.

197.218.88.6 (talkcontribs)

It is probably a good idea to add a basic message similar to the special maintenance reports (e.g. Special:wantedpages saying results are estimates) so people don't keep reporting this. Alternatively considering that the number can be wildly inaccurate it may be best to simply remove it completely and be done with it.

Its probably easier to introduce a basic count of the visible errors within the sub pages, e.g. Special:LintErrors/deletable-table-tag. At least that will always be accurate, as it could only report visible items, even if the pages there are still in cache.

MarcoSwart (talkcontribs)

The main page Special:LintErrors on Dutch Wiktionary has been updated this morning, showing as a new find an old page with both a misnested tag and an obsolete tag, which of course have been corrected by now. What puzzles me is that the counter for "Missing end tag" was and is at 11 pages, with the corresponding subpage only showing the 8 pages that have become our baseline. If it had been 10 I would consider it the result of rounding, but how do we get to 11?

MarcoSwart (talkcontribs)

There was another update, showing 1 stripped tag en 0 for both the misnested and obsolete tags. Only the Missing end tag remains stubbornly at 11, while the subpage is showing the correct number, 8.