Talk:Reading/Web/PDF Functionality

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Update: (15 July 2019) We’ve launched the new PDF renderer. We’re looking at feedback, but haven't so far seen any significant issues. We might incorporate some suggestions, but want to note that this is not an ongoing project with continuous development. In other words, now that it's deployed and proven to work, the new renderer is entering maintenance mode. This page won’t be abandoned, but it could take a while before anyone reacts, simply because everyone's got so much else to do.  

In terms of books, we've left it in the hands of volunteer developers and PediaPress. We'll be glad to reach out to them with questions, but we're not planning any involvement in terms of the technical implementation.

Steelpillow (talkcontribs)

There is a proposal to Suppress rendering of Template:Wikipedia books on the English Wikipedia.

The accompanying discussion is suggesting that support for the longstanding PediaPress print-on-demand service should be removed because it is a pay-for service. I am sure that the WMF have some arrangement with PediaPress about this, and the last I heard PediaPress were also working on a replacement PDF renderer. Then there is Dirk Huenniger's MediWiki2LaTeX which is currently hosted by wmflabs at both and . Although the current proposal does not affect them immediately, it is also being argued that no support for any external services should be given. That would reduce the current Wikipedia Books function to nothing more than passive reading lists.

You are invited to join the discussion. Steelpillow (talk) 10:28, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

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Book maker formats in Persian language

Mobin2008 (talkcontribs)

Hi. I noticed that the book maker is not working well in Farsi.

For example, instead of this


is writing:

م ا ل س

With respect.‍‍‍

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Omotecho (talkcontribs)
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Dirk Hünniger (talkcontribs)
Steelpillow (talkcontribs)

Looks good. I do not have time to test it myself, but it is crystal clear that the WMF need to wake up and smell the coffee.

Your main code may be written in haskell, but how is that worse than a proprietary volunteer working on a (very) occasional basis and keeping their code closed source?

Dirk Hünniger (talkcontribs)
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Hola, ¿habrá posibilidad de exportar a epub? Gracias

Johan (WMF) (talkcontribs)
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Please install additional font on the pdf services for CJK characters.

Viztor (talkcontribs)

Default font looks terrible. Source Hans Sans + Source Hans Serif would be a great option. All it takes is to install the font set.

Tgr (WMF) (talkcontribs)
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-Extended periodic table (detailed cells)- download PDF not working well

Andy181209 (talkcontribs)
Steelpillow (talkcontribs)

In a word, No. The table is ridiculously huge and cannot possibly be condensed into a meaningful page-based format.

Or, to put it another way, the table would have to be broken down at source into a multi-page friendly format first.

Dirk Hünniger (talkcontribs)

I tried with and the result looks really funny. If you got the okular pdf viewer you can zoom into the table at 1600 % and on a UHD screen you can actually read some elements, still it prints over the margin of the page. So yes I tried my best, but a satisfying result seems unlikely to achieve.

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merci pour ce information

Summary by Johan (WMF)

Just a thanks. (talkcontribs)

je vous j'adore

2A01:CB00:865C:AE00:B9:47D3:8F37:7153 (talkcontribs)

Très simple : vous n'avez qu'à aller sur la "version imprimable" et demander que le texte soit imprimer en version pdf.... Cela fonctionne sans aucun souci .En tout cas, sur Mac...

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Dirk Hünniger (talkcontribs)


I could generate PDF versions of all community maintained books in the English Wikipedia and store them in a cloud accessible with sftp. I could update each PDF once a year. We could link form the book template to the cloud with lua. Are you interested?

Yours Dirk

Dirk Hünniger (talkcontribs)

So, I started a minimal setup now, 5 years old dual core laptop next to my fridge, with one process at a time. The first three resulting pdfs are available here . I need about 1 hour per pdf and each has got a size of 20 MByte on average. Since I got roughly 6000 pdf to make. This will take about 250 days an use about 120 GByte of disk space.

Sj (talkcontribs)

Sounds like a great candidate for a rapid grant for a dedicated faster computer.

Dirk Hünniger (talkcontribs)

I think the computer is not so much of a problem at the moment. I can afford the necessary hardware and I am quite happy if I don't have to do more paperwork. But what I actually think I need is a community decision on the English Wikipedia that says that I can run a bot to upload the pdfs on the English Wikipedia. I started the discussion here: . I think the 20 PDF files I generated up to now are enough to come to a decision on that.

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