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This discussion is for comments, feedback, and thoughts on the work to improve contribution tools on mobile web.

AdrianWikiEditor (talkcontribs) (talkcontribs)

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Ninovolador (talkcontribs)

Will this project include adding basic admin functionality to the mobile front-end? Easy access to delete and protect pages, and blocking users would be great.

AHollender (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hey @Ninovolador — I'm Alex, a WMF designer & researcher working on this project. Thanks for raising this question. I coincidentally realized about two weeks ago that we've neglected to address admin workflows thus far. We certainly would like to include some of the admin functionalities you mentioned above, as well as possibly some others, to the mobile site as part of this project. I'm curious if you could express your preference in terms of priority of the functionalities you mentioned? Also, @CKoerner (WMF) pointed me towards this list, which includes some additional administrator functions. I'm also curious if any of those would be valuable for you on mobile, again in priority order if possible. Thanks.

Ninovolador (talkcontribs)

Hi I think that i can do a list. Keep in mind that I am a small wiki admin, so my priorities can and will differ substantially from the ones at larger wikis.

  1. deleting
  2. blocking
  3. protecting
  4. viewing/restoring deleted pages
  5. moving pages (overriding titles)

But mainly the first three. The other tasks i do, such as MediaWiki editing or merging are exceptional, and are more suitable for working on the desktop.

The other thing i do the most is rollback, but that's already been working on, i think

Ninovolador (talkcontribs)

@AHollender (WMF) Sorry for double posting, but didn't knew how to do the mentions.

AHollender (WMF) (talkcontribs)

@Ninovolador awesome, thank you so much. I appreciate you noting the size of the wiki you are an admin of — I will make sure to reach out to some admins of other sizes as well.

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A scrollbar for Table of Contents

Ugog Nizdast (talkcontribs)

I'm not sure about the right place to post this. I found this place after I posted at the Pump in English WP, here.

I felt mobile view was ignored in favour of the app which I definitely think has a way lower userbase. I have this basic UI feature in mind, which is just what the app has. The persistent scrollbar for the Table of Contents. The summarise what I raised there: "the lack of an easy way to scroll through the Table of Contents for any decently sized article. Try it on mobile view, it's horrible. The app, however, has that nice scroll bar: which is persistently present as you read and can collapse, showing the relevant (sub)sections for even quickly jumping to. You won't get lost in an article wondering how to get back to a said section that was on your mind."

Besides this, I'm kind of lost here. One: how do I test Advanced mobile contributions, the main page says it's not deployed yet but it's in Beta? Two: Have I put my above UI suggestion in the "right" place?

AHollender (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hey @Ugog Nizdast — thanks for your feedback. I'm a designer on the Readers Web team at the Wikimedia Foundation. If I understand your message correctly you are wondering why on mobile web it isn't easier to access the table of contents from anywhere in the article, and jump to a new section? We actually started working on this problem last spring and you can read about it here: Reading/Web/Projects/In-page Navigation. If you have feedback on the designs posted there I encourage you to open a thread on the talk page.

If I misunderstood your question please clarify. Thanks again.

Ugog Nizdast (talkcontribs)

Yes, this is what I was asking. Thanks.

So besides feedback, is there way I can test this Beta feature*?

Edit: Very interesting your work, good to see it being planned.

Edit2: *I mean in general, the Advanced mobile contributions feature.

Edit3: Posted my feedback there.

AHollender (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Apologies for my slow reply. Currently the Advanced mobile contributions mode is only available on Spanish, Indonesian, and Arabic Wikipedias. If you're comfortable with any of those languages please try it out there. We would love to hear your feedback.

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AHollender (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hey, I was hoping to get some discussion going around the questions we posed in our recent update. Calling upon a few folks who participated constructively in some of the prior AMC [Advanced mobile contributions] discussions — @Donald Trung, Harshrathod50, arajc, jacobtohahn, AdrianWikiEditor:.

Which Talk page experience do you prefer, and why? Is there any low hanging fruit for improving the mobile Talk experience for advanced contributors?

Harshrathod50 (talkcontribs)

I prefer the Wiki version instead of Default one and that is because it allows me to decide weather I want to sign or not after replying. The automatic signing functionality of Default version is very annoying.

AdrianWikiEditor (talkcontribs)

I feel like the current mobile talk page is like the visual editor. Laid out nice and simple showing exactly what to do. However the "Read as wiki page" is like the source editing. You don't know what to do and it's all complicated for newer editors. Keep both but maybe have some sort of dropdown so you can pick between Visual editor and Source editing. Plus people will get angry if there is only one option available. All I am saying to to maybe change how you switch between them. AdrianWikiEditor (talk) 03:37, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

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