Extension talk:RevisionSlider

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This is the feedback page for the RevisionSlider extension. Read about what we've learned about creating a RTL-accessible extension. Please report all RTL-related issues on this talk page!

Mihia (talkcontribs)

More useful would be a proper way to discover when certain content was added, altered or removed. English Wikipedia has a feature "Revision history search" which links to an unfortunately-named widget called "WikiBlame". This could potentially be very useful, but unfortunately it seems to have been written by and for techies, and the user interface is virtually incomprehensible for the ordinary user. It is also very slow.

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SMOMMSS (talkcontribs)

Great request! Great response! (This last includes great execution!) Suggest: Search and Find to locate specific revision to address. Some of the stuff that comes up on Wikipedia has to much of a proprietary interest from their creators: emotion being the wild-and-crazy card that over-rules over all; but this time you guys done[sic] it up right! Had I a thumb to spare, I should award ye three (3) thumbs up.

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Birgit Müller (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

@SMOMMSS, I remember how happy we were when we received your feedback, but then we actually didn't let you know! So sorry for this late response: Thank you very much for your nice comment :-) About your suggestion: What exactly would you want to look for, name of author, date ...? A general "search" functionality is not planned, but we might look into making it easier to find other versions of an editor, and improve the orientation on the timeline later this year. I can let you know when this becomes more concrete! Best, Birgit

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星耀晨曦 (talkcontribs)

Hi, recently I found out that my personal wiki revision slider could not work, display The revision slider failed to load.. I using developer tools (F12) to check, and I got

load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=ext.RevisionSlider.Api%2CDiffPage%2CHelpDialog%2CPointer%2CPointerLine%2CPointerView%2CRevision%2CRevisionList%2CRevisionListView%2CSlider%2CSliderView%2CdialogImages%2Cicons%2Cinit%2Cutil|moment%2Coojs-ui%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-toolbars%2Coojs-ui-widgets%2Coojs-ui-windows|oojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced%2Cicons-moderation&skin=vector&version=0w0sw2o:62 Error: RS-revs-not-specified
    at SliderView.initializePointers (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=ext.RevisionSlider.Api%2CDiffPage%2CHelpDialog%2CPointer%2CPointerLine%2CPointerView%2CRevision%2CRevisionList%2CRevisionListView%2CSlider%2CSliderView%2CdialogImages%2Cicons%2Cinit%2Cutil|moment%2Coojs-ui%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-toolbars%2Coojs-ui-widgets%2Coojs-ui-windows|oojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced%2Cicons-moderation&skin=vector&version=0w0sw2o:43)
    at SliderView.render (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=ext.RevisionSlider.Api%2CDiffPage%2CHelpDialog%2CPointer%2CPointerLine%2CPointerView%2CRevision%2CRevisionList%2CRevisionListView%2CSlider%2CSliderView%2CdialogImages%2Cicons%2Cinit%2Cutil|moment%2Coojs-ui%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-toolbars%2Coojs-ui-widgets%2Coojs-ui-windows|oojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced%2Cicons-moderation&skin=vector&version=0w0sw2o:32)
    at load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=ext.RevisionSlider.Api%2CDiffPage%2CHelpDialog%2CPointer%2CPointerLine%2CPointerView%2CRevision%2CRevisionList%2CRevisionListView%2CSlider%2CSliderView%2CdialogImages%2Cicons%2Cinit%2Cutil|moment%2Coojs-ui%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-toolbars%2Coojs-ui-widgets%2Coojs-ui-windows|oojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced%2Cicons-moderation&skin=vector&version=0w0sw2o:62
    at mightThrow (/w/load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=1v29rkf:49)
    at process (/w/load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=1v29rkf:50)
(anonymous) @ load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=ext.RevisionSlider.Api%2CDiffPage%2CHelpDialog%2CPointer%2CPointerLine%2CPointerView%2CRevision%2CRevisionList%2CRevisionListView%2CSlider%2CSliderView%2CdialogImages%2Cicons%2Cinit%2Cutil|moment%2Coojs-ui%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-toolbars%2Coojs-ui-widgets%2Coojs-ui-windows|oojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced%2Cicons-moderation&skin=vector&version=0w0sw2o:62

Does anyone have any idea about this?

Christoph Jauera (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Hey @星耀晨曦,

I have a few questions before I can help you. What do you mean by "personal wiki" do you maintain your own Mediawiki installation? And if so, what version of Mediawiki and what version of the RevisonSlider do you use? ( if you're not sure you can find that info on the Special:Version page of your wiki ).

Thanks,

Christoph

星耀晨曦 (talkcontribs)

Yes, it is my wiki that I maintain. My wiki info:

MediaWiki 1.30.0
PHP 7.2.2 (cgi-fcgi)
MariaDB 10.2.13-MariaDB-log
ICU 52.1
Lua 5.1.5

I use 1.0.0 (ce8f25a) version RevisonSlider. My wiki also is public, this is one of the damaged page.

Christoph Jauera (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Hey,

thanks for the data. I had a really quick look but did not find an easy solution. Now I created a ticket on Phabricator so we can work on it. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189096

We will keep you updated!

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Suggestion: support sense of absolute time

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BlaueBlüte (talkcontribs)
related: Suggestion: Introduce milestones (or markers) to mark important event in article history
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136104

Some first-glance orientation on the time axis with regard to absolute time would be helpful. This could be provided in the form of, for example,

  • labeling the visible range with start and end date
  • time intervals shaded differently and and labeled in some unobtrusive form (since edit frequencies vary across pages, the intervals used would probably have to adapt somehow, e.g., weeks, months, or years):
IKhitron (talkcontribs)

+10 for the last point.

Christoph Jauera (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Hey @BlaueBlüte,

thanks for the feedback and suggestion. On Phabricator we've already got a ticket that deals with time related scales in the RevisionSlider. I left a comment there, so that we consider your feedback when looking into the issue.

Best,

Christoph

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Aniket (talkcontribs)

Revision Slider is a great help for my admin tasks. Thank you.

Birgit Müller (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Hi, thank you so much for the nice feedback :-) we're really glad that RevisionSlider is helpful for you!

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Suggestion: Include tags in revision metadata popup

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197.218.82.89 (talkcontribs)

Issue:

It is not possible to see which tags apply to a revision.

Proposed solution

Include tags in popup when user hovers over a revision bar.

Christoph Jauera (WMDE) (talkcontribs)
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MrX (talkcontribs)

This a very nice feature. No issues so far. Thank you to everyone involved.

Birgit Müller (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Thank you for taking the time to give us feedback! We were really happy when we received it (and we still are :-) - this is very motivating for everyone!

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JRSpriggs (talkcontribs)

As far as I am concerned this useless graph is just clutter which interferes with my work. How do I get rid of it? ~~~~

Birgit Müller (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Hi @JRSpriggs, you can disable the RevisionSlider by checking Don't show the RevisionSlider in your preferences under Appearance -> Diffs.

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Omotecho (talkcontribs)

Great tool to review changes to my translation/edits. No more hussle going back and forth between tabs. Appreciate very much to have editors move between eds and save time/energy and this smoothly.

Birgit Müller (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Thank you for the great feedback, this means a lot to us :-)

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Suggestion : mark talkpage parallel edits

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Danny lost (talkcontribs)

Very good addition, thanks.

Suggestion: add an icon above a bar, if there are edits on the Talk page from the same day. Or maybe, to refine better, edits from the same day by the same user. Or a counter of the number of Talk edits.

Issue: I do feel that the diff page respondes more than a little slowly, at least after loading several diffs in a row. But that's Firefox for you (v56, win10).

Christoph Jauera (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Hey @Danny lost,

thanks for the feedback and the suggestion.

To get a better understanding on what you mean: So the idea would be, to show these icons/tags/numbers that relate to the talk page of an article on the RevisionSlider view of the actual article page right? Can you give an example on how this would help you in your work? :-) - That would be really great.

Thanks again,

Christoph

Danny lost (talkcontribs)

Yes, clues about the talk-page, in the article-RevisionSlider. On the one hand, most article changes are not accompanied by talk-page discussion. On the other hand, some cases of dense activity are the result of counterpart activity on the talk-page. The edit summary is not a reliable clue for whether there was a discussion, let alone what was said there. On active articles, going through the talk-page is a time consuming effort.

Let's say I visited an article in the past, and now on a second visit I see a lot has changed, some of it not for the better. I want to see what led to this and open the Slider. I can see when some sentence was removed, but not if someone gave a good reason for this. If there was a talk-page indication, I can jump to that discussion and see if this was the result of an edit war, a compromise, or maybe an undiscussed change. Maybe I'll learn that this is a repeating issue, that there are previous Admin decisions, and so on.

Christoph Jauera (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Cool, thanks for that detailed explanation. I created a Phabricator ticket so we have the feature request on our monitors and it could be considered in the future.

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Kghbln (talkcontribs)

The slider is not showing up for quite a while now which I just realized when reading the latest Tech News. No, I did not tick "Don't show the RevisionSlider". I would like to use it.

Johanna Strodt (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Hello @Kghbln,

thank you for your remark. To reproduce and fix the issue it would be great if you could give us some more information:

1) Do you mean, you don't see the RevisionSlider on this diff page?

https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=16959900&oldid=16668377&title=Tech%2FNews&action=historysubmit&type=revision

2) What browser (e.g. Firefox, Chrome, Safari, Opera) and operating system (e.g. Windows, Apple, Linux) did you use when the issue appeared? Did you use a computer or a mobile device like an iPad?

Thanks a lot in advance!

Johanna

Kghbln (talkcontribs)

Heiya Johanna, well, there I see it. To me it looks like that the behaviour must have changed severely. I expected to see the slider on the revision history from the start like it used to be in earlier versions. Thus I did not even get that far. Apart from that I was using Firefox on Linux on a computer, but it seems it is just my mere confusion that is the problem here. :( Thanks for you answer! Cheers

197.218.83.97 (talkcontribs)
197.218.83.97 (talkcontribs)
Kghbln (talkcontribs)

Yes, this indeed covers it. I am sure that this was easier to find in earlier versions.

Johanna Strodt (WMDE) (talkcontribs)
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