Extension talk:RevisionSlider

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This is the feedback page for the RevisionSlider extension. Read about what we've learned about creating a RTL-accessible extension. Please report all RTL-related issues on this talk page!

MrX (talkcontribs)

This a very nice feature. No issues so far. Thank you to everyone involved.

Birgit Müller (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Thank you for taking the time to give us feedback! We were really happy when we received it (and we still are :-) - this is very motivating for everyone!

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TORI77 (talkcontribs)

open all hidden

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Aniket (talkcontribs)

Revision Slider is a great help for my admin tasks. Thank you.

Birgit Müller (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Hi, thank you so much for the nice feedback :-) we're really glad that RevisionSlider is helpful for you!

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Suggestion : mark talkpage parallel edits

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Danny lost (talkcontribs)

Very good addition, thanks.

Suggestion: add an icon above a bar, if there are edits on the Talk page from the same day. Or maybe, to refine better, edits from the same day by the same user. Or a counter of the number of Talk edits.

Issue: I do feel that the diff page respondes more than a little slowly, at least after loading several diffs in a row. But that's Firefox for you (v56, win10).

Christoph Jauera (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Hey @Danny lost,

thanks for the feedback and the suggestion.

To get a better understanding on what you mean: So the idea would be, to show these icons/tags/numbers that relate to the talk page of an article on the RevisionSlider view of the actual article page right? Can you give an example on how this would help you in your work? :-) - That would be really great.

Thanks again,

Christoph

Danny lost (talkcontribs)

Yes, clues about the talk-page, in the article-RevisionSlider. On the one hand, most article changes are not accompanied by talk-page discussion. On the other hand, some cases of dense activity are the result of counterpart activity on the talk-page. The edit summary is not a reliable clue for whether there was a discussion, let alone what was said there. On active articles, going through the talk-page is a time consuming effort.

Let's say I visited an article in the past, and now on a second visit I see a lot has changed, some of it not for the better. I want to see what led to this and open the Slider. I can see when some sentence was removed, but not if someone gave a good reason for this. If there was a talk-page indication, I can jump to that discussion and see if this was the result of an edit war, a compromise, or maybe an undiscussed change. Maybe I'll learn that this is a repeating issue, that there are previous Admin decisions, and so on.

Christoph Jauera (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Cool, thanks for that detailed explanation. I created a Phabricator ticket so we have the feature request on our monitors and it could be considered in the future.

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Suggestion: Include tags in revision metadata popup

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197.218.82.89 (talkcontribs)

Issue:

It is not possible to see which tags apply to a revision.

Proposed solution

Include tags in popup when user hovers over a revision bar.

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117.228.55.163 (talkcontribs)

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Kghbln (talkcontribs)

The slider is not showing up for quite a while now which I just realized when reading the latest Tech News. No, I did not tick "Don't show the RevisionSlider". I would like to use it.

Johanna Strodt (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Hello @Kghbln,

thank you for your remark. To reproduce and fix the issue it would be great if you could give us some more information:

1) Do you mean, you don't see the RevisionSlider on this diff page?

https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=16959900&oldid=16668377&title=Tech%2FNews&action=historysubmit&type=revision

2) What browser (e.g. Firefox, Chrome, Safari, Opera) and operating system (e.g. Windows, Apple, Linux) did you use when the issue appeared? Did you use a computer or a mobile device like an iPad?

Thanks a lot in advance!

Johanna

Kghbln (talkcontribs)

Heiya Johanna, well, there I see it. To me it looks like that the behaviour must have changed severely. I expected to see the slider on the revision history from the start like it used to be in earlier versions. Thus I did not even get that far. Apart from that I was using Firefox on Linux on a computer, but it seems it is just my mere confusion that is the problem here. :( Thanks for you answer! Cheers

197.218.83.97 (talkcontribs)

See: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Topic:Ttqh7as4cz2b6kng&action=history. Chances are you just forgot about its entry point.

197.218.83.97 (talkcontribs)

Oops, more like Topic:Tmxhqv9cpkrpfb25 .

Kghbln (talkcontribs)

Yes, this indeed covers it. I am sure that this was easier to find in earlier versions.

Johanna Strodt (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Thanks, 197.218.83.97!

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Jazzy Prinker (talkcontribs)

Well, this is great. Just one thing: how to move the yellow and blue knobs is not clearly elucidated in the "usage" section and the tutorial message that appears along the Slider. It took me a while to decipher that. So please can you write it in a better way? Thanks ~~~~

Johanna Strodt (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Thanks for your feedback, @Jazzy Prinker! We'll look into that. It would be great if you could add what kind of information is lacking or which expressions make the text hard to understand. Thanks! -- ~~~~

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Translation error in Spanish Revision Slider

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PMAverageMe (talkcontribs)

Hi, I happen to discover this wonderful feature but I’ve noticed that in the tutorial for the Spanish version, the third slide, is in English. I managed to understand it but some Spanish speakers may be troubled!

Thanks for your atention, PMAverageMe (talk) 21:36, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Christoph Jauera (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Hi @PMAverageMe,

translations for almost all Wikimedia projects including the RevisionSlider are done with the help of translatewiki.net and the translatewiki community. There you can look into the translations for all elements of a project and suggest your own.

For the RevisionSlider in Spanish the page to look at there would be here You can easily register there and suggest a translation for the text. :-)

Alternatively I can try to ping people here that have translated the RevisionSlider in Spanish already on translatewiki (hoping the translatewiki usernames are the same): @Macofe @RicardoSGZ

Thanks :-)

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Suggestion: Make it possible for the revisionslider to stick to the top of the page even when scrolling (sticky)

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197.218.91.158 (talkcontribs)

Issue

As a user, I want to navigate through revisions without always scrolling to the top of the page.

Background

Currently the only way to slide to another revision is to scroll to the top of the page and click one of the buttons / knobs. This is a particularly cumbersome when navigating a very long page with few changes in the same area (e.g. middle of a page). Also, with the new VisualEditor/Diffs it is possible to see most of the context without scrolling back up.

Possible solutions

  • Make the revision slider toolbar sticky as the user scrolls; or
  • Make a simpler smaller toolbar that follows the user while scrolling, and contains back and forth buttons (maybe at the bottom of the page).

Using keyboard shortcuts to navigate revisions(using a userscripts) made it clear that this is useful.

Christoph Jauera (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Hey hey,

thanks again for the feedback. I created a ticket for your proposal an Phabricator https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T169865 so we can keep track of it and consider it for future developments.

Since you mentioned it: Would adding keyboard navigation be a sufficient solution for your usecase? Or would you still want to see/access the bars and tooltip-summaries while on the middle of the page?

Best,

Christoph

197.218.88.200 (talkcontribs)

Hi,

> Since you mentioned it: Would adding keyboard navigation be a sufficient solution for your usecase? 

>Or would you still want to see/access the bars and tooltip-summaries while on the middle of the page?

The bars are not necessary, only the tooltip summaries related to the current and the prior revisions. With the Visual history diff, this is would be simple, since they could just add that to the sidebar that shows up alongside most revisions (see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Handball_at_the_2012_Summer_Olympics&diff=473592443&oldid=472329262&visualdiff)

As long as there are keyboard shortcuts and a short summary of the current and prior revision there should be no problem. It worked that way for years after all. The difference is that revision slider reloads sections of page on the fly, while the default diff page reloads the whole page, and forces the user to start from the top again.

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Display overwrites Twinkle shortcuts, at times

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Wcherowi (talkcontribs)

While I don't want to sound overly negative, I do a lot of editing and I have yet to find a need for this revision slider. This would normally not cause me any great discomfort, as there are many tools that I don't use for one reason or another, but in this case this tool is creating a problem for me. I use the Twinkle commands that appear on the first line of the two revisions that are being compared extensively. Frequently, but not always, the slider display overwrites this line (usually after I have moved to another version) and once it does this I can't recover those commands (collapsing the display does not help) without leaving the page and returning again. This is so annoying that I would like to disable this slider, but it does not appear that I can do that (or at least I can not find anything in my preferences that would do that). The slowness of the initial display and the fact that the cursor frequently opens a bubble by accident that takes forever to disappear are also definite drawbacks. --~~~~

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Christoph Jauera (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Hey @Wcherowi,

thanks for your feedback! The good news is, in fact you can deactivate the RevisionSlider completely in the user preferences Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. Just scroll down to the section "Diffs" and check the box "Don't show the RevisionSlider" :-)!

Nevertheless I created a ticket for the issue so we might be able to fix that for maintainers that want to use the gadget and RevisionSlider: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180430

Thanks again and best,

Christoph

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