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Wladek92 (talkcontribs)
Clump (talkcontribs)

Thanks for fixing it. Could block them, but that edit is a few years old so it's unlikely to have an impact at this point.

Wladek92 (talkcontribs)

ok, additionally i havent checked his/her other possible contributions

Clump (talkcontribs)

None, and no others from their /64 either.

Wladek92 (talkcontribs)

ok , closable topic.

Please temporarily restore my Use talk page

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Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talkcontribs)

Please temporarily restore my Use talk page. I need the material to place in an email. Please ping me so I can grab the text. You also did not explain how an appeal to MediaWiki bureaucrats is out of project scope on a MediaWiki talk page

Clump (talkcontribs)

@Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ): . Restored for a brief period. Please do not post about your block status here; do it on the wikis on which you are blocked.

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Wüstenspringmaus (talkcontribs)
SCP-2000 (talkcontribs)
Clump (talkcontribs)

Done (Stang already blocked the 2nd one.)

SCP-2000 (talkcontribs)
SCP-2000 (talkcontribs)

Legacy revision objects in extensions

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Pppery (talkcontribs)
Clump (talkcontribs)

I don't think any are in use at this point so I suppose it's ok to archive them.

Pppery (talkcontribs)

Thanks. I've submitted a request to archive MadLib. These days this sort of thing is better done in a template or Lua module than an extension anyway.

DebugTemplates was sufficiently interesting to me that I decided it was worth my time to fix it up for now: gerrit:1054070

Clump (talkcontribs)

Ok. Thanks for fixing DebugTemplates. It was motivated by the pain of tracking down errors in some massive template nests, but it was hard to convince the site(s) I intended it for to install it, let alone use it.

Lionel Cristiano (talkcontribs)

Hello Clump, I am translating English pages into Turkish. Can I have the right to autopatroller?

Clump (talkcontribs)

Hello Lionel. What for?

Lionel Cristiano (talkcontribs)

Classic answer: no need to patrol :)

Clump (talkcontribs)

Autopatrol isn't used much here, and certainly I don't use it, so sorry but I don't see any point.

Lionel Cristiano (talkcontribs)

Thanks for ur answer.

Kleshkreikne (talkcontribs)

Hi, I just wanna know why you undid my edits on the user warning templates. In my opinion, saying "hello" to every user warning templaes especially in the level 3 and 4 templates would hurt the user more because the user would do more harm than good if he says hello. This is meant to be more serious, not more relaxed.

Clump (talkcontribs)

Hello. Your sentence/logic is not clear, but to address what I think you are asking: I don't agree that the politeness interferes with or devalues the message, nor is it the intention of those templates to hurt the user. It is possible to be serious and still be polite.

Pppery (talkcontribs)

I've restored Kleshkreikne's edit. I see no reason to go out of one's way to be polite to vandals. And user warning templates really don't need to exist on this wiki anyway.

Clump (talkcontribs)

Please do not do that. Those templates would/should presumably be used to inform people when there is some doubt. While there's no need to be especially polite to vandals, as you indicate, those are also the cases when the templates are not necessary. I don't see a need to remove/reduce the textual politeness of templates that are specifically aimed at cases when the user's intention is ambiguous.

Pppery (talkcontribs)

{{Uw-vandalism1}} is aimed at cases when the user's intention is ambiguous. The others aren't. Or at least that's how it works on the English Wikipedia.

Clump (talkcontribs)

If the intention is unambiguous then there's no need to use a template, and that logic follows through all levels of the template. If someone bothers to use a template then they're trying to be informative, and in those cases the inclusion of a greeting merely follows common communication protocol. I don't see any need to change it, and do not agree with a motivation of trying to "hurt" the recipient by being less polite, however absurd the idea that removing "Hello" achieves that goal may be.

If you want to delete the templates altogether that would make sense. Beyond that I would appreciate you restoring the status quo prior to seeking some form of consensus from others for the change.

Pppery (talkcontribs)

Fine. I've reverted my edits. I'm still not convinced this is anything other than faux friendliness, but this is not worth spending more effort arguing about.

Summary by Clump

Thanks, done.

M7 (talkcontribs)
Ternera (talkcontribs)
Clump (talkcontribs)

Thanks; blocked.

DT elppA (talkcontribs)

Hello, why did you revert my edits?

Clump (talkcontribs)

Hi. The hard redirect has been there for 11 years, and you gave no meaningful edit reason. Why did you make them?

DT elppA (talkcontribs)

I think redirects to other wikis should be soft redirects. Is this wrong?

Clump (talkcontribs)

No, on retrospect it is fine, and seems to have been done in other cases too. Sorry for the revert.

DT elppA (talkcontribs)

Thank you.