Architecture committee/2016-06-08

The TechCom planning meeting is a weekly invite-only video discussion, generally held on Wednesday 13:00 USA Pacific Time.
See also TechCom-RFC workboard in Phabricator. (Private minutes)

Agenda timeline

• Intro
  • Agenda bashing and action item check 21:00 (5 minutes)
  • Last week+this week’s RfC office hour 21:05 (5 minutes)
• RFC status update
  • RfC inbox triage 21:10 (10 minutes)
  • Shepherd assignments 21:20 (5 minutes)
  • Queue for future RfC office hours 21:25 (5 minutes)
• Wrapup
  • Other business 21:30 (10 minutes)
  • Next week’s ArchCom agenda 21:40 (10 minutes)

Agenda details/Meeting summary

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Intro section

10 minutes (starting 21:00 UTC)

• Action items
  • Last week
    • Gabriel: follow up on Phab:T102476 - RFC: Requirements for change propagation (in progress)
      • Daniel and Gabriel will continue to discuss, but we won't track this beyond tracking the task on the #ArchCom-RFC board. See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102476#2381742 for more.
    • RobLa: make proposal "Backlog" column (not done)
    • RobLa: update workboard based on W21 IRC session (Phab:E187) (done)
• Last week’s RfC office hour
  • Phab:E198 - CSP
    • CSP needs another week or two to flesh things out before another conversation

RFC status update

20 minutes (starting 21:10 UTC)

Spent most of meeting discussing Architecture committee/Status.

• Who is chairing the upcoming IRC meeting? RobLa is chairing
  • Service orchestration as topic for today?  Don’t want to spend the whole meeting talking about it, but maybe 10 minutes.  Third party?  Memory consumption?  Scaling?
  • SOA RFC?
• Conclude last week's "final comment period"? Do we have anything that should enter "final comment"?  Nope
• Do we have a robust queue of RFCs to discuss at future IRC discussions?
• For each upcoming meeting, do we anticipate the RFC moving into "final comment"?
• How does ArchCom-RfCs board look?
  • Inbox:
    • T124569 RFC: Data namespace blob storage on wikidata.org
      • See also T134426, and Yuri's 2016-06-04 email to wikitech-l
• What is the most important thing each ArchCom member is shepherding? Anything blocked? Are responsibilities balanced well?
  • Brion
    • T107595 Multi-content revisions is interesting, needed for various things in multimedia land
      • Meeting happened earlier this week; notes are on the ticket
    • T66214 - predictable thumb URLs
      • Break this out into:
        • Define set of core & extensible media file options for Handler extensions
        • Predictable thumb URLs
        • Improve InstantCommons perf by reducing need to run thumbnail URL lookups
        • Iframe-based rich media embedding for InstantCommons
    • plan to write up new RfCs for:
      • In-browser SVG rendering (pick up existing bug & mailing list notes)
      • iframe+CSP-isolated JS widgets for rich content
        • & extend that to InstantCommons via embedding
      • iframe+CSP-isolated JS gadgets for UI plugins
        • Build these out from ideas from hackathon project T131436
  • Daniel
    • Software Quality working group - will follow up on earlier proposal.  Will talk to people at Wikimania
    • Working on Multi Content Rev Spec with Brion
    • T113034 RFC: Overhaul Interwiki map, unify with Sites and WikiMap: checking in with Adam
    • T89733 (approved, with Stas driving implementation)
  • Gabriel
    • Looking into content composition working group, possibly kick-off at Wikimania
    • Discussing Multi Content Rev / RB interaction with Daniel; follow-up at Wikimania
  • Roan
    • T108655 RFC: Standardise JavaScript interfaces: Second part is starting at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133462
  • RobLa
    • Working with DPatrick on Wikimedia Security Team issues in an attempt to be useful there.
    • T123753 Establish retrospective reports for Security and Performance incidents
      • In scope for this group?
    • Forming ArchCom-affiliated working groups
      • RFCs
        • T124504 Transition WikiDev '16 working areas into working groups and
        • T123606 RFC: Implement ArchCom-affiliated working groups (process inspired by Rust's "subteams")
      • Testing Conpherence use for means of piloting ArchCom working groups. Still using Phab:Z425 as asynchronous ArchCom-RFC triage channel. A Security/ArchCom quasi-working group discusses some issues in Phab:Z411. I started renaming "subteams" to "working groups" on Requests for comment/Governance (with Nemo's help).
  • Tim
    • T89331 (Replace Tidy in MW parser with HTML 5 parse/reserialize) - should meet to discuss migration rather than implementation plan
    • T114444 RFC: Introduce notion of DOM scopes in wikitext
      • Scott has implementation work in progress
  • Timo
    • T18691 RFC: Section headings should have a clickable anchor. Reading team expressed interest to help shape the solution. Still open for more use cases and different ideas for how to solve it. Possible scope creep.
      • Stalled.
    • T135963 RFC: Implement CSP in MediaWiki. Was discussed in the IRC office hours last week. Notes at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E198.

Next week: T124569 RFC: Data namespace blob storage on wikidata.org

Other business/planning

20 minutes (starting 21:30 UTC)

• Next week's ArchCom
  • Timo will out of office

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