VisualEditor/Feedback/Archive/2017/12

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Unable to change quality flag in wikisource

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While proof reading in page namespace in Tamil Wikisource using visual Editor there is no option to change the quality flag from "pink" to "yellow" or "green" or other colours. Hence it is posing difficulty in proof reading.

Regards,

J. Balaji. Balaji (talk) 16:33, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Appreciate the report. Adapting the visual editor to Wikisource is done by volunteers, so you may want to reach User:Tpt. Elitre (WMF) (talk) 09:25, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi,

how to reach User:Tpt

Sorry it may be a silly question. But I am not sure how to reach him.

Regards Balaji (talk) 19:02, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

You can leave a message at their talk page. Elitre (WMF) (talk) 19:04, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Hello Balajijagadesh, you could change the quality flag in VE by clicking on the quality banner (the one that is English Wikisouce states "This page have been..."). There should be a small editor that allows you to change the quality flag just like what it is possible for templates. Tpt (talk) 23:59, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

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تحميل التطبيقات

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وكيل المستخدم: Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 4.4.2; PGN-508 Build/KOT49H) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Chrome/30.0.0.0 Mobile Safari/537.36

مسار: https://ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Aisshab/%D9%85%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A8&action=edit&redlink=1 Aisshab 22:40, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

@Aisshab, how can we help you? Elitre (WMF) (talk) 17:17, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

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Preview button desperately needed

Answer inside

Kasutajaagent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/62.0.3202.94 Safari/537.36

It is nice, that you are all working hard to make the editing easier. I appreciate that.

But I'd really really like to see a button at the top, that allows me to see a preview without taking a long round trip. I don't understand how that happened, that this button isn't there with that new edit view. Or really, how did that happen? Seriously? "Show changes" + "show preview" are the only two buttons that most of the users actually need. Comment here is simple: "If you need a button to add a link, then please use a Visual Editor."

P.S. That text on top of the feedback system, that should show where this comment will be published (VisualEditor/Feedback) doesn't actually link to the right place. Kruusamägi (talk) 23:33, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T153306

There have been a lot of complains about the preview button being hard to find / awkward to access in the 2017 wikitext editor. A phabricator task has been open on the issue for a year. There doesn't seem to be much work on beta-editor recently. There is an EnWiki consensus against the beta editor due to bad performance issues and faulty previews.

Note: There's a separate page for 2017 wikitext editor/Feedback. Alsee (talk) 10:24, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

> I don't understand how that happened, that this button isn't there with that new edit view. Or really, how did that happen?

They used the same dialog box for VisualEditor's 2017 wikitext mode and its visual mode. The workflow was optimized for the visual editor (several years before the wikitext mode was built), so it's not ideal for the wikitext mode. I think they'll be considering a few changes to that in due course. In the meantime, you might be interested in learning the w:en:Wikipedia:Keyboard shortcuts for those actions; in most browsers, they are the same keys for all of the wikitext editors. That will allow you to bypass the Save dialog. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 20:25, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

I accidentally moved a page from my account to someone else's. Now I can't publish it.

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_13_1) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/62.0.3202.94 Safari/537.36

URL: https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%83%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%87:%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%B0_%D0%9B%D1%8C%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BD?veaction=edit Sumonespecial (talk) 18:15, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

@Sumonespecial, I see Гоша Льовочкін exists now, so I guess you solved the problem in the meantime. Elitre (WMF) (talk) 16:08, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

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link

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T50463

the link create [[a|ab]] insted [[a]]b 83.31.80.39 (talk) 21:30, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi, please provide more details so that we can help. A link to the specific article, what you wanted to achieve and what happened instead would be a good start, thanks. Elitre (WMF) (talk) 16:06, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

लेखाचे नाव कसे संपादित करायचे ?

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मी पत पत्र या नावाने आताच लेख लिहिला . पण लेखात मी पतपत्र असा शब्द वापरला आहे. लेखाचे नाव त्या प्रमाणे बदलायचे असे कसे जमेल ते कृपया सांगा . सुबोध पाठक (talk) 07:35, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

@Subodh reader, I think you are looking for information about how to rename an article, but I don't think you're using the visual editor. https://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/सहाय्य:आशय should be able to lead you to editing guides in your language. Elitre (WMF) (talk) 16:04, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

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Templates on top

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On Dutch Wikipedia I tried to add the template nl:Sjabloon:Zie artikel (See article) to nl:Grenadines. This template works well only when placed in the top line of the text. In pages with infoboxes the Zie artikel template is placed below the infobox, leaving an unsightly white gap as high as the infobox. I can't find a way to get the template in the top line. Invoking the template interactively or by typing {{ makes no difference.

Btw: Windows 10, Pale Moon browser (a Firefox clone).

Yes, of course switching to the old editor does the trick. But this should not be necessary. Bertux (talk) 20:16, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

This has nothing to do with Visual Editor or Parsoid. If you move that line below the infobox in the source editor and preview it, you see the same whitespace gap. The problem is probably with either the infoboxes or with the Zie artikel template in terms of either its CSS or the HTML they generate. SSastry (WMF) (talk) 16:19, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

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Tengo un problema

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URL: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacinto_Villalba?veaction=edit Estoy editando y me dice desde ayer modo de codigo por ahora y no sé qué es eso. No puedo poner correctamente el tipo de letra a todo lo que escribo. Muchas gracias. Rosa Vill (talk) 13:23, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

@Rosa Vill, https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario_discusión:Rosa_Vill explains why your edits are being reverted. You can follow the links on the page to learn more. Are you copying and pasting the text from somewhere else? If you want to set the text to the default size, you can select it and then look for the "Grande" option in the "Estilo de texto" -- "Mas" menu. This will un-set it as big in your case (as it is currently set as such). Elitre (WMF) (talk) 15:52, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Gracias Rosa Vill (talk) 08:27, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

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Je souhaite inclure une image dans mon article

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Agent utilisateur : Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_9_5) AppleWebKit/601.7.8 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/9.1.3 Safari/537.86.7

URL : https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utilisateur:Carlitoermosso/Brouillon&action=edit&preload=Aide%3AComment+cr%C3%A9er+un+article%2Fpreload&editintro=Aide%3AComment+cr%C3%A9er+un+article%2F5b Carlitoermosso (talk) 19:18, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Je vois que vous utilisés le editeur source, mais vous avez posté sur le forum pour VisualEditor. Si vous voulez inclure une image vous pouvez aller sur VisualEditor, "Inserer" -> "Media". Reception123 (talk) 19:28, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

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Citation Tool Does Not Recognise References Added in Infoboxes

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As an example, I was working on Gabrielle Onguéné. The link to her 2015 World Cup Profile was already in the article but in the infobox. When I used the citation tool, it did not recognise the reference as already existing. I've added it in in this (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gabrielle_Ongu%C3%A9n%C3%A9&oldid=814758669) edit but will go back to fix. Just thought I should give you a heads up.

Using Chrome 62.0.3202.94 on Windows with Vector. Redfiona99 (talk) 19:38, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I believe this is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52474. Elitre (WMF) (talk) 15:42, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

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Incluir imagem

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Agente de utilizador: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; Win64; x64; rv:57.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/57.0

URL: https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostila_da_Conven%C3%A7%C3%A3o_da_Haia?veaction=edit&section=4 Desejo inserir uma imagem, modelo do apostilamento no Brasil Igor Rafailov (talk) 00:23, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

See Help:VisualEditor/User_guide/pt#Editar_imagens_e_outros_ficheiro_multimédia. Elitre (WMF) (talk) 15:39, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

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The links list is weird while editing a table

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Good afternoon,

I saw an error while editing an article with a table. While editing normal text, the links are normal (they are showing down), but in the tables, the links list is sometimes showing up, which is not normal (before, it was always showing down). The links lists, which are something showing up, are also getting very far from the editing area, being covered only with the tools list up from the editing area. See my screenshots at cswiki: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:TableError1.png, and on enwiki: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:TableError2.png. Thank you for fixing. Awewewe (talk) 15:35, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. That issue doesn't happen to me in 2 browsers (Safari and Opera on a MacBook Air). Please include details about your web browser, computer operating system, and wiki skin. Also, could you please try to append &safemode=1 at the end of the URL and try to reproduce. TY! Elitre (WMF) (talk) 16:12, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

@Elitre (WMF): I use Google Chrome, operating system Windows 10 and Vector skin. Appending &safemode=1 doesn't help. Thank you for your answer. Awewewe (talk) 17:35, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

OK. Let's see if someone with that config can also reproduce - throwing all of this into Phabricator isn't a big deal. Elitre (WMF) (talk) 18:16, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Stumbled on that myself, so there we go. Elitre (WMF) (talk) 19:18, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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Suggestion: Add keyboard accelerators

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Issue

It is impossible to access certain menus / toolbars / buttons without the mouse.

Proposed solution

Add a key to trigger a keyboard accelerator (see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms646337(v=vs.85).aspx for full description)

When the user presses the key (e.g. ALT) the relevant menu or button gets an underline to denote the trigger for it, e.g. to access page settings one could press ALT + P.

Add a general key shortcut to access the menu, typically on several operating systems this is keyboard key F10, for most (all ?) applications in it.

Note that this is distinct from the "normal" keyboard shortcuts. Accelerators tend to be context dependent and can trigger in any dialog or interface that has options or buttons. 197.218.84.212 (talk) 14:03, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

If I understand https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162334 correctly, that's not really easy to do? Elitre (WMF) (talk) 14:23, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

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Dawna strona użytkownika musi być przekierowana do nowej

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URL: https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedysta:Blazej13&redirect=no&veaction=edit A griffin of poland (talk) 20:26, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

@A griffin of poland, hi, have you tried to remove all the content except for the redirect code? Elitre (WMF) (talk) 12:20, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

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Problem converting normal links to ISBN links

Phabricator Task: T184349

I tried to convert a normal link to an ISBN link, but only the whole link was selected and not converted.

Translated with google translator FF-11 (talk) 16:39, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for this note. Could you please link to the page or diff where you had this problem? Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 20:13, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

No, I can't. I didn't save the edit. I'm trieing out some feaures in the VisualEditor if I find them FF-11 (talk) 16:47, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Selection buffer "pastings" are rich text and mess up syntax colouring

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Recently I selected the title of a Wikipedia article to selection-buffer-"paste" it into a link on a separate talk page using mouse button 3 (middle-click). However the h1-style formatting was also "pasted", and from then on it was like the editor had two layers, the syntax-coloured text including the header-formatted title, and plain text behind. They even scrolled separately and it could not be fixed until the page was reloaded (my work was lost). It seems VE uses `contenteditable`, which needs additional code to behave so that it ignores formatting (anyone who wishes can test this fact by making an opening a bookmark with URL data:text/html,<html contenteditable>). Arlo Barnes (talk) 01:51, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Selecting an article title in the visual editor/2017 wikitext editor though isn't possible ATM. And which talk page would that be, are you editing it with the 2017 wikitext editor? Would you mind describing the issue again by listing the steps to reproduce and examples? TYVM! Elitre (WMF) (talk) 11:06, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Arlo, were you in the visual mode when this happened? Did you have syntax highlighting enabled? And is it still happening? Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 23:29, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

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יצירת משתמש בצורה נכונה

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שלום רב !!!!!!!!!!!!! אני משתמשת חדשה בויקיפדיה , ואינני יודעת איך משתמשים או עורכים נכון את - התרשים בביליאוגרפיה , ומתקשה מאוד, מבקשת עזרה ממכם בבניה ( עריכת גוף הטקסט ביחד עם חלון לתמונה) חוה הלוי (talk) 00:17, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

@חוה הלוי, I think you may find useful info at https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/עזרה:תפריט_ראשי (Help:VisualEditor/User_guide/he isn't fully translated, assuming it has the info you're looking for). Elitre (WMF) (talk) 10:32, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

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