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Marvin JS extension106:38, 17 June 2015
Template:Hubs221:39, 4 January 2015
An important message about renaming users018:24, 25 August 2014
Usurpation Request (SUL)014:47, 21 June 2014
Project:Requests/User rights/Leitoxx022:51, 26 May 2014
Project:Requests018:20, 15 May 2014
Why have you deleted the page NSA_Studios?121:46, 4 May 2014
thanks, but...023:24, 13 March 2014
Thanks for Translation Admin rights!009:40, 20 February 2014
How is having a user page grounds for deletion?1109:04, 7 February 2014
Comment307:52, 3 February 2014
Thank you!110:32, 7 January 2014
Files321:05, 7 December 2013
Question about Central Auth404:12, 7 November 2013
You deleted my user page508:06, 6 October 2013
Deleted Pages labeled Spam107:01, 2 August 2013
Abuse Filter517:59, 19 June 2013
Deleted page102:46, 18 June 2013
page deletion100:35, 8 June 2013
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Marvin JS extension

Hi, I just wanted to ask you a question. Do you know anyone with the skill and the inclination to write an extension similar to the Jmol extension ( but for the 2D chemical structure viewer and editor, Marvin JS? I personally do not have the skill to write such an extension but as Marvin JS is written in Javascript I wouldn't imagine it'd be too difficult for someone with the programming skill to create such an extension. Fuse809 (talk) 18:41, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Fuse809 (talk)18:41, 3 February 2015

Unfortunately I do not. If it's in JS, a gadget might be a better idea - Extension:Gadgets.

Jasper Deng (talk)06:38, 17 June 2015


Could you please take out the "Usage" text from protection for translation? Thanks.

Fabsouza1 (talk)13:24, 4 January 2015

I can prepare that text itself for translation but I don't see a reason to remove the usage manual.

Jasper Deng (talk)18:00, 4 January 2015

Ok. No problem.

Fabsouza1 (talk)21:39, 4 January 2015

An important message about renaming users

Dear User talk:Jasper Deng/An important message about renaming users,

I am cross-posting this message to many places to make sure everyone who is a Wikimedia Foundation project bureaucrat receives a copy. If you are a bureaucrat on more than one wiki, you will receive this message on each wiki where you are a bureaucrat.

As you may have seen, work to perform the Wikimedia cluster-wide single-user login finalisation (SUL finalisation) is taking place. This may potentially effect your work as a local bureaucrat, so please read this message carefully.

Why is this happening? As currently stated at the global rename policy, a global account is a name linked to a single user across all Wikimedia wikis, with local accounts unified into a global collection. Previously, the only way to rename a unified user was to individually rename every local account. This was an extremely difficult and time-consuming task, both for stewards and for the users who had to initiate discussions with local bureaucrats (who perform local renames to date) on every wiki with available bureaucrats. The process took a very long time, since it's difficult to coordinate crosswiki renames among the projects and bureaucrats involved in individual projects.

The SUL finalisation will be taking place in stages, and one of the first stages will be to turn off Special:RenameUser locally. This needs to be done as soon as possible, on advice and input from Stewards and engineers for the project, so that no more accounts that are unified globally are broken by a local rename to usurp the global account name. Once this is done, the process of global name unification can begin. The date that has been chosen to turn off local renaming and shift over to entirely global renaming is 15 September 2014, or three weeks time from now. In place of local renames is a new tool, hosted on Meta, that allows for global renames on all wikis where the name is not registered will be deployed.

Your help is greatly needed during this process and going forward in the future if, as a bureaucrat, renaming users is something that you do or have an interest in participating in. The Wikimedia Stewards have set up, and are in charge of, a new community usergroup on Meta in order to share knowledge and work together on renaming accounts globally, called Global renamers. Stewards are in the process of creating documentation to help global renamers to get used to and learn more about global accounts and tools and Meta in general as well as the application format. As transparency is a valuable thing in our movement, the Stewards would like to have at least a brief public application period. If you are an experienced renamer as a local bureaucrat, the process of becoming a part of this group could take as little as 24 hours to complete. You, as a bureaucrat, should be able to apply for the global renamer right on Meta by the requests for global permissions page on 1 September, a week from now.

In the meantime please update your local page where users request renames to reflect this move to global renaming, and if there is a rename request and the user has edited more than one wiki with the name, please send them to the request page for a global rename.

Stewards greatly appreciate the trust local communities have in you and want to make this transition as easy as possible so that the two groups can start working together to ensure everyone has a unique login identity across Wikimedia projects. Completing this project will allow for long-desired universal tools like a global watchlist, global notifications and many, many more features to make work easier.

If you have any questions, comments or concerns about the SUL finalisation, read over the Help:Unified login page on Meta and leave a note on the talk page there, or on the talk page for global renamers. You can also contact me on my talk page on meta if you would like. I'm working as a bridge between Wikimedia Foundation Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Stewards, and you to assure that SUL finalisation goes as smoothly as possible; this is a community-driven process and I encourage you to work with the Stewards for our communities.

Thank you for your time. -- Keegan (WMF) talk 18:24, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk)18:24, 25 August 2014

Usurpation Request (SUL)

Hi Jasper, my request here has been hanging since 7 June, while most of my requests on other wikiprojects have already been accepted. I understand this is not very urgent, but I request you to please look into this sometime soon. I am also willing to wait if this has been a part of the process of informing the target username for usurpation. Thank you. D abhi (talk) 14:47, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

D abhi (talk)14:47, 21 June 2014

Project:Requests/User rights/Leitoxx

Replied in English.

Leitoxx (talk)22:51, 26 May 2014

I just requested a username change.

ಠ_ಠ Inquisitor Sasha des Ordo Scharzenkommando (Talk) ([[Special:Contributions/Inquisit18:20, 15 May 2014

Why have you deleted the page NSA_Studios?

You've deleted my page named NSA_Studio under the content of spam. But please, I'm just providing with information about my firm. It's an article that'll help my clients know about me. How is that spam? Please look in to this matter as soon as possible and revoke the deletion if possible., 4 May 2014

I chose a slightly inaccurate reason to delete it but the deletion still stands. Please read Project:About. Did you mean to create your own wiki?

Jasper Deng (talk)21:46, 4 May 2014

thanks, but...

Thanks for your notification, but if you want me banned, you shouldn't communicate with me. Thanks for your understanding.

DanielTom (talk)23:24, 13 March 2014

Thanks for Translation Admin rights!

Hi, Thanks for approving my request for Translation Administration. Its big help. I had felt the need for it the last few days with the ULS pages going through heavy changes and every time I had to go to my team mates to get the pages prepared for translation. Thanks.

Runa Bhattacharjee (talk)09:40, 20 February 2014

How is having a user page grounds for deletion?

I am very serious: I was furious when I saw that deletion. This is everything wrong with Wikipedia culture. How can it possibly ever be a good idea to delete a page that exists only to validate a user's existence and contribution? It is almost incidental that Dan is an employee of WMF and on my team -- no matter what he should have been welcomed into the community as a potential contributor and showered with encouragement. If he was a nobody and saw that response, I would not blame him for leaving your a profanity-laden comment and simply never coming back to the community. Is that what we want?

Dsc (talk)00:15, 23 September 2012

It's local policy that userpages should be in project scope, if you want to change that please file an RfC.

I would not have deleted had I verified him as a WMF employee or if it have (WMF). It said nothing more than his name, which looks no different from a test page that's routinely deleted. I could've just as easily used "no meaningful content" - I don't work for the foundation and wouldn't have known he was with you.

Once again I apologize, though you should note that this policy is purely local to this wiki.

Jasper Deng (talk)02:07, 23 September 2012

Thank you Jasper for the welcome message on my talk page. And thank you dsc for sticking up for me and other initially clueless users out there. I'm totally new to the world of wiki and I'm looking forward to learning more about the community. If I might suggest, the policy might be a little smoother if it had two steps:

  • Post the same welcome message you left on my talk page, with a warning added that the page might be deleted if it's left blank for too long.
  • If no action is taken to change the page within a couple of weeks or some reasonable period of time, then maybe clean up the page.
DAndreescu (talk)04:00, 23 September 2012

I used to use {{delete}}, but when I did another sysop told me to not wait. I'm going to have to have a talk with that sysop.

Jasper Deng (talk)04:17, 23 September 2012

On this note, I didn't have the time to leave {{scope}} for the user, which I usually do.

However, I do want to say that in the cases I've seen, a user with a userpage not related at all to MediaWiki is very likely here to do something off-topic. I never mean to bite new users and I want more people to contribute to the software. The local deletion log contains many such cases.

Jasper Deng (talk)04:36, 23 September 2012

Could you please point me to the policy that says we should delete people's userpages if those userpages do not explicitly mention their connection to Wikimedia or MediaWiki? I'd like to suggest that we change that policy so that we *ask* people what their connection is first, rather than deleting straightaway.


Jasper Deng (talk)17:05, 23 September 2012

OK, I see that there's an implication there that people's userpages should explicitly mention their connection to MW or WM. But I'm specifically looking for the policy stating that we should delete first and ask questions later.

On that, I mistook another sysop's directions to not wait. SVG was that sysop and clarified this to me (and revdeleted Dsc's edit summary).

Usually that page's policy is grounds for speedy deletion, and there's nothing written down about the use of {{delete}}; {{speedy}} has been used in the past for such userpages too.

Nor is Dsc's comment supported by any existing policy on this wiki.

Jasper Deng (talk)14:52, 24 September 2012

that was mine, i just forgot to sign in

Lskitto (talk)00:58, 1 March 2013

You can edit the signature of the comment to reflect that.

Jasper Deng (talk)00:59, 1 March 2013

Done, Could you please ask an admin to remove that post?

Lskitto (talk)01:03, 1 March 2013

I can't verify that the first one is yours and not another anonymous user's.

Jasper Deng (talk)01:09, 1 March 2013

Thank you!

Much thanks for your help today, dealing with the Flow spam. Sorry it wasn't easier to deal with, but it did help re-prioritize this week's dev work! Best wishes,

Quiddity (WMF) (talk)08:23, 7 January 2014

No problems. You really should be thanking User:Ironholds and the others who helped quickly put together a stopgap solution to end this as an emergency, though!

Jasper Deng (talk)10:32, 7 January 2014

Hello Jasper, could you please delete five files which I uploaded a few minutes ago? I wanted to upload it to Commons Wikimedia, but I made a mistake in settings of The Commonist. I'm sorry for my bad English. Regards, --Miďonek (talk) 20:19, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Miďonek (talk)20:19, 6 December 2013


Jasper Deng (talk)00:28, 7 December 2013

Thank you. Why I still see blue link to files in deletion log?

Miďonek (talk)09:36, 7 December 2013

They were reuploaded to Commons under the same names.

Jasper Deng (talk)21:05, 7 December 2013

Question about Central Auth

Would it work with this extension? Extension:Simple Farm.

I'm using it for the farm on WikiHub, and I'm wondering if it will work with the setup. Each wiki has a separate database, which is consistent with Central Auth.

ఠ_ఠ Inquisitor Sasha Ehrenstein des Sturmkrieg Sector (Talk) (Contr)17:05, 31 October 2013

Because both extensions deal with site names, I have to caution against it, although I have no personal experience with Simple Farm.

Jasper Deng (talk)00:12, 1 November 2013


Do you think that a shared user table work alright with it? The extension uses a single set of files for multiple wikis with multiple databases.

ಠ_ಠ Inquisitor Sasha des Ordo Scharzenkommando (Talk) ([[Special:Contributions/Inquisit02:40, 7 November 2013

CA doesn't deal with shared user tables.

Jasper Deng (talk)02:58, 7 November 2013

Oh, sorry. I was wondering if you think that SimpleFarm would be able to work with a shared user table instead of using CentralAuth.

ಠ_ಠ Inquisitor Sasha des Ordo Scharzenkommando (Talk) ([[Special:Contributions/Inquisit04:12, 7 November 2013

You deleted my user page

Hi Jasper. You deleted my user page a few days ago, with the tag "Out of project scope". I hope you can tell me what was on that page, because I really cant remember it, and I am suprised I had something which wasnt related to this site.

Christian75 (talk)19:21, 21 September 2013

It was some random spam in Russian - you didn't create or edit any of it.

Jasper Deng (talk)21:27, 21 September 2013

It goes to show that one's userpage (like forum profiles) belongs to the community (technically to the site owner) and not the user personally.

Myrtonos (talk)05:53, 29 September 2013

Well, you still legally have some copyright over your revisions because CC-BY-SA 3.0 requires attribution by others when they use your content.

Jasper Deng (talk)07:31, 29 September 2013

But on this wiki, as on any other, the webmaster/maintainer technically reserves the right to edit any page they wish, including others' userpages, provided that such edits comply with applicable law. And policy on this wiki allows you and all other admins to delete out-of-scope userpages.

Myrtonos (talk)07:53, 29 September 2013

Thanks for letting me know :-)

Christian75 (talk)08:06, 6 October 2013

Deleted Pages labeled Spam

Hi Jasper Deng, I am developing a antispam extension, which automatically detects spam edits based on bayesian techniques. For that I need a lot of spam entries for training data. I was looking at the delete log, and you have marked many spam there. Is there any way I can get the hold of that data. Please contact me on for details. I maybe better able to explain myself. --Anubhav iitr (talk) 06:40, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Anubhav iitr (talk)06:46, 2 August 2013

Hello. While I appreciate your interest, I do indeed need more details before I can give you some access to the deleted information. If you wish for privacy, you may find me as Jasper_Deng on IRC or use Special:EmailUser/Jasper Deng to email me (I do not post my email address publicly, unfortunately, due to the possibility of spammers crawling the wiki for email addresses).

Jasper Deng (talk)07:01, 2 August 2013

Abuse Filter

Hello, why did you revert my changes on mediawiki? The filter would have prevented abuses like this one for example: User:AlyciaTri. You should have refrained from restoring your version, in my opinion, since there are no false positives at all. In this way you have to follow all spammer's changes (part of this site, feel free to surf...), and when it updates its way of spamming (the text), you will have to reupdate the filter, whereas the site remained alike.

Frigotoni ...i'm here;11:29, 17 June 2013

No. Your change caused the filter to block a user wrongly. Furthermore, I looked at its regex and for a blocking filter, that's way too general of a filter.

Jasper Deng (talk)16:18, 17 June 2013

Nope, you are really far short of the target. Your current version continues not preventing some Ntsamr spammers from editing, and that would never have happened if you hadn't revert my version. The latter, was indeed thought to block that specific kind of spammer, and, barely it can give false positives. Regardless of the fact that my version is used elsewhere, any new user registered that includes a link on his user page normally has not good intentions, at least on mediawiki, where there are just spammers. So, how can you prove it, if you did not even try that version?

Frigotoni ...i'm here;16:42, 18 June 2013

The fact that your version blocked a user wrongly is something I can't tolerate, and I predicted your filter to make more false positives because it did not specify that the user had to match the particular ntsmr phrases.

Jasper Deng (talk)18:50, 18 June 2013

The fact is that you simply don't understand how the filter works really, otherwise you wouldn't make such deprecable speeches. Have you seen at least, on outreach how it blocks only spiteful users? And to think that there there are not so many spammers as here. Now, apart from the fact that it has not made false positives anywhere so far, supposing that it makes a false one: you can simply check it from Special:AbuseLog, and try to understand why the filter sprung. Do not guess about future then please.

Frigotoni ...i'm here;11:58, 19 June 2013

I understand the filter syntax perfectly well. I don't judge the filter based on how it acts on other wikis, but from its conditions.

I cannot see why it would not produce any false positives if it didn't explicitly check for the NTSMR sentences, when the filter is trusted to block such users.

Jasper Deng (talk)17:58, 19 June 2013

Deleted page

Looks like I accidentally created a page (INFOR_databases in the mediawiki link and it has been deleted. I am sorry for that. Is it possible to please email me the details I entered ? Would like to avoid retyping it all over again. My email is, 18 June 2013

I will email it to you.

Jasper Deng (talk)02:46, 18 June 2013

page deletion

I was creating a LawKick wiki page for the company I work for and the page was deleted. Don't understand why?

Adynomike2000 (talk)23:38, 7 June 2013


This wiki is only for the MediaWiki software itself. If you wish to make your own wiki website, see Manual:Installation guide or hosting services.

Jasper Deng (talk)00:35, 8 June 2013

Unblock request


I'm Edward Chernenko, russian Uncyclopedia sysop, and I request an unblock. I was banned here more than two years ago, and the issue that led to it is no longer relevant. 07:07, 17 April 2013 (UTC), 17 April 2013

I will not unblock without consulting the admin who blocked you.

Jasper Deng (talk)07:08, 17 April 2013

Based on an IRC discussion with MaxSem, I'm declining to unblock you. I'm not convinced that your issues are resolved (and I've been told that you're banned on the Russian Wikipedia). Sorry.

Jasper Deng (talk)07:15, 17 April 2013
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