User talk:A smart kitten

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Hi @A smart kitten: can you please create the Template:Strongest support and Template:Strongest oppose pages? USB4215 (talk) 21:06, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

@USB4215: Thanks for the message :) To be honest, I probably wouldn’t be inclined to create them myself, as I guess I could just use something like {{strong support|Strongest support}} if I personally wanted to convey that sentiment within a discussion. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 13:15, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

Thanks A smart kitten! :) USB4215 (talk) 13:51, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

Re: restoration of "Docker/SIG" categories

Hi @A smart kitten :) I removed those categories as part of my efforts to improve documentation. I explained my thinking, but I understand and accept yours. I did the same thing with MediaWiki-Docker-Dev - you are welcome to revert my change there too for consistency. Douginamug (talk) 16:55, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

@Douginamug: Thanks for the note! Out of interest, what do you think about the idea of moving them to 'former'/'historical' subcategories? My thinking is that something like that might hopefully prevent potential confusion for (e.g.) someone looking for active Docker-related pages in Category:Docker, while still allowing such pages to be discoverable from their categories for (e.g.) people interested in reading about previous Docker-related initiatives. (Thinking about it, maybe it might be an idea to start a discussion at the Village pump about how best to categorize historical documentation pages?) Best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 17:43, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

That is a good question and I'd love to know the answer! For me, the present has to take priority, so whatever is chosen, keeping current docs uncluttered should take precedence. I am still a preservationist, and wouldn't want to delete pages - even removing their still accurate categories is a degredation of sorts.

Perhaps help:categories#Hidden categories could be useful? Let me know if you figure it out, or ask on Village pump. Douginamug (talk) 19:34, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

@Douginamug I'll try and remember to post a question about it on the Village pump tomorrow :) ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 21:19, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

Follow-up issue

Some time ago I asked that question about the frame that seemed to conflict with 'reply', and not using a template seemed to fix it, except that oddly now every time 'reply' is used |} is left at the bottom automatically, which closes the frame and ends up leaving any further new sections outside of it... any idea why? Lofty abyss 10:00, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

@Lofty abyss Hmm… I'm not certain. At a guess, maybe the reply-tool (or the parser used by the reply-tool) detects some unclosed table markup, and automatically fixes it at the same time as leaving a reply? But then who knows why (at a first glance) the 'new topic' tool doesn't seem to do the same thing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Maybe @Matma Rex (hope you don't mind the ping!) might know more? Best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 10:21, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

The reply tool and the new topic tool add new comments in different ways (the former is mostly HTML-based and the latter is mostly wikitext-based), which would explain why they behave differently here.

As far as I can tell, the reply tool has always "automatically fixed" the closing tag in this scenario, or at least I haven't found any examples where it didn't do that. The example diff from the previous discussion also exhibits this: [1]. I went looking for older examples, and in this discussion (linked from T287040) I found this diff from 2021, which also exhibits the problem: [2]. This isn't something the tool does intentionally, it just happens by accident as a result of processing the page as HTML. Matma Rex (talk) 20:09, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

The reply tool and the new topic tool add new comments in different ways (the former is mostly HTML-based and the latter is mostly wikitext-based), which would explain why they behave differently here. Ah, thank you!

Re the frame, do you think it's worth updating the last sentence of Help:DiscussionTools/Why can't I reply to this comment?#Wrapper templates to note that the reply tool does this sort of auto-fix (or e.g. is there some way of implementing a decorative frame/background that might not result in this behaviour)?_/genq ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 21:48, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

Sure, feel free to improve that page. I don't think there's any way to have a decorative frame/background that doesn't cause issues somewhere, sorry :( Matma Rex (talk) 22:54, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

No worries :) Added a quickly-written note to that page in Special:Diff/8003337. Best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 23:16, 5 November 2025 (UTC)