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Feedback: IAmChaos

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Summary by PPelberg (WMF)

T303662: Document script(s) talk page activity indicator might need to cope with

IAmChaos (talkcontribs)
  1. Did you use mobile device or a laptop to test the prototype?: Laptop
  2. What did you find unexpected about the prototype?
  3. Which steps in the "Try the Prototype" section did you find difficult to complete? none
  4. What do you like about the prototype? The latest comment is an amazing addition - I would like to ask that it is ensured not to conflict with existing enwiki xTools gadget
  5. What do you wish was different about the prototype? I do NOT like the larger reply button - it sticks out and is much more visually obtrusive in the flow of reading through a discussion
PPelberg (WMF) (talkcontribs)

hi @IAmChaos – thank you for trying out the prototype and coming here to share what you thought about it. A couple of responses below...

The latest comment is an amazing addition - I would like to ask that it is ensured not to conflict with existing enwiki xTools gadget

Two questions for you:

1) Are you referring to the "Latest comment" indicator that appears beneath the page title? The "Latest comment" indicator that appears beneath each H2 section title?

2) Can you please say more about the xTools gadget? In what way(s) could you see the "Latest comment" indicator potentially conflicting with it?

I do NOT like the larger reply button - it sticks out and is much more visually obtrusive in the flow of reading through a discussion

We hear you. What do you think of this latest design? You'll notice we've removed the arrow that had previously appeared before each "Reply" link/button.

IAmChaos (talkcontribs)

1 -Wow, I didn't even see the ones below each section header, you guys are doing some great stuff, I love it!

2- As for that Ive seen (usually not with mediawiki) that sometimes when things are placed in the same spot some softwares have a hard time displaying it and there is overlap, and I myself (on my home wiki) have two different script/gadget that utilize the space immediately below the page title. I'm sure you techy people know how to make conflicts resolve, but I just wanted to say something out loud.

3 - I like the new design, it appears much more inline, and looks very clean.

PPelberg (WMF) (talkcontribs)

1 -Wow, I didn't even see the ones below each section header, you guys are doing some great stuff, I love it!

We're glad to hear you think as much :)

2- As for that Ive seen (usually not with mediawiki) that sometimes when things are placed in the same spot some softwares have a hard time displaying it and there is overlap, and I myself (on my home wiki) have two different script/gadget that utilize the space immediately below the page title. I'm sure you techy people know how to make conflicts resolve, but I just wanted to say something out loud.

Ah, I see. Can you please share links to the two gadgets you're referring to?

Reason being: I'd like to make sure we consider them as part of the testing we will be doing in T303662.

3 - I like the new design, it appears much more inline, and looks very clean.

Oh, good.

IAmChaos (talkcontribs)
PPelberg (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Thank you for sharing links to the gadgets you had in mind, @IAmChaos...I've added them to phab:T303662#8122152.

I see you also subscribed me to that phab ticket, thank you for listening!

You got it and thank you for sharing :)

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)
MusikAnimal (talkcontribs)

The gadget inserts before the #contentSub element. So long as that's still in the HTML, the gadget should continue to work as it does now.

MusikAnimal (talkcontribs)

There was a change to Vector 2022 recently that apparently removed #contentSub except for subpages. Was this related to the above discussion? The change broke the XTools gadget, which I've now fixed, but there are many thousands of other scripts and stylesheets that also reference #contentSub.

PPelberg (WMF) (talkcontribs)

There was a change to Vector 2022 recently that apparently removed #contentSub except for subpages.

Thank you for flagging this, @MusikAnimal.

The change you're referring to above happened in T311421, specifically this patch. Credit to @DLynch (WMF) for tracing this.

And now there is T315639 which I think describes the experience you reported above.

MusikAnimal (talkcontribs)

Thanks! T315639 is indeed the issue I'm referring to.

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