Topic on User talk:SGrabarczuk (WMF)

With the new design please be aware that not everybody wants things stuck to the page or over the contents. I find that very distracting and annoying. I class it as spammy behaviour when they are in the way and can't be closed. I find i can't concentrate on the article. I would like to see an option to hide it like a slider, Google maps have one for the side pane. DuckDucko has a setting and Archive.org has a close button which gives me a choice. I have to rely browser extensions to hide/show these things and they don't always restore properly.

Will there be a setting?

Overall, we:

1. Are aware that in such a diverse and tech-savvy group as Wikipedians, there will always be people who dislike a particular feature
2. Will build this in MediaWiki which is highly customizable/adjustable anyway. One "only" needs to know how to adjust something. How to change CSS, or to write a user script, etc.

So I suspect the question isn't really "whether this would be possible" but "how easy this would be for individual users". I'll ask my colleagues.

Well I see the new design, appreciate the left slider can be hidden and other stuff and I don't see any fixed headers yet. I appreciate that.

Thank you.

When I see large headers stuck on the top of the page that I find I don't need and don't want them, can't hide whenI am trying to scroll away from them they make me loose my temper and this from the start in 2015 before I used element hiders to hide them and a Bookmark killer before that i manually removed them from developer tools. I am now at the liberty of browser extensions Firefox "Stickyducky" and Chrome, "Sticky Header Hider aka Fixed Header Fixer" Chrome auto hide stuff on scroll and I shouldn't to depend on those.

Hypothetically: If you went into a shop on the high street and everytime you go in there you have something stuck in a fixed part of your vision, with the store's logo, and toolbar in the way and distracting and no matter where you look you can't get rid of it until you leave. Now how would you feel? Wouldn't that put you off?

I like my freedom to scroll the page, whether everything scrolls inline, it makes it to me spacious and this what got my into browsing and doing many things and research back many decades.

Archive.org has a header that can be hidden and Duckduckgo too as i have choice like before the change to adjust it.

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I find the fixed headers (uncloseable) or things stuck there a violation over my viewing area. I take great offence the same as when I use to remove malware decades ago for customers, like the excessive browser toolbars, that use to reinstall through hidden processes (free games) that customers couldn't see, and injected stuff over webpages with things that interfered whether they'd be watching some on youtube, which included dimming overlays (lightboxes) advertising or scaring them into some unknown anti virus program and through a fake looking mozilla yellow bar on Firefox back in the day.

I read a lot of people in the comments on the development page and the EEVBLOG board that they are unhappy with the the white spaces so on that they saw recently, but I don't care about those, only that my viewing area is left alone on scroll and things are not stuck in the way.

It's a bit like Channel logos, in the UK we have like hundreds of freeview channels and some BBC too but I don't watch any of them for that reason as I'd notice them more than the anything else and can't pay attention due to the distraction of seeing it there all the time constantly over the picture.

Thanks again for listening.