Topic on 2017 wikitext editor/Feedback

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In order to preview a page with the new editor, you have to first click the publish button, then wait for the summary box to appear, then click preview -- extremely annoying when I want to iterate a specific change. At least on mobile it shows the preview by default.

Additionally, templates like Wikipedia:Template:Graph:Chart just straight up don't work, and don't work on mobile either. I had to disable this just to edit pages like Wikipedia:Opinion polling for the next New Zealand general election.

What I would primarily like to see is a preview button directly next to the publish button. Figuring out a way to get the graph template appearing would be a bonus as well.

I agree; preview should not be under publish (VisualEditor too). Another annoying effect of this is that one cannot preview if no changes have been made (the publish button is disabled until a change has been made).

The trick I use to preview a null edit on mobile is just to add a space and remove a space, preview button appears.

Hello, I came on this page to report this very problem: preview is frustrating when several clicks are necessary.

You can use the Keyboard shortcuts to bypass this problem.

My workflow often involves scrolling rapidly between preview and wikitext, so being unable to have both on the same page is frustrating even if I can rapidly open the preview using a shortcut.

You might be interested in m:Community Wishlist Survey 2021/Real Time Preview for Wikitext, if you are mainly using the 2010 wikitext editor.

I agree; I disabled this beta feature because it appeared there was no way to preview changes. After reading this discussion I learned that there is, but it's counterintuitively after clicking "Publish" and there are too many steps to do so. Some other features have preview-as-you-type, which is nice, but one way or another it would be nice to sort of make the preview step unavoidable, since I've sometimes regretted not previewing, but have not really been bothered by checking my work to find no mistakes.