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Please don’t output en-ja "Cat:Coordinates not on Wikidata"

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Omotecho (talkcontribs)

It has been pointed out to me at ja Wikipedia that I have added CX2 output(s) to local wikipedia and added up unwanted :en:Category:Coordinates_not_on_Wikidata. Jawp, too, has an equivalent category, but unmanaged but expanding with translated articles; since wikipedias don’t share how we use coordinates, or enwp vs jawp. which should be prevented or such template will only snowball choirs for admins at jawp.

  • Proposal: CX2 will stop to output administrative templates from source to target language, and to be specific, Category:Coordinates_not_on_Wikidata;
  • Reason: admin tasks regarding Coordinates and wikidata is not a universal nor higher priority task on jawp; (1) source and target language communities not necessarily share tasks and goals regarding coordination of places-> wikipedia article(s)-> wikidata; (2) CX2 users are translators, and not necessarily specific about cleaning up CX2 output when it comes to categories; it is rather hard to notice that any category you tried to reflect on CX2 to target language or simply did not care, will be visible as if to push a dish to admins and serve extra task to solve;
  • Additional support/documentation: we lack documenting how category will function at CX2 introduction page; your good intention to output as many categories from source to target languages, you could end up adding ambiguous tabs to the original ; in this case ''wikidata needs somebody to give coordinates on Wikidata for the subject of a wikipedia article.
  • Advanced help: the geography wikipedians or cartographers will be invited to support the task to fill coordinates on wikidata, whenever a CX2-translated page indicates you need to add coordinates on wikidata; tutorial, or links to how-to or Help-pages an outline solution.
  • What was tried: to add coordinates to wikidata for the page I translated with CX2, but failed;
  • open issue: How do we know, then, if the target language. eg jawp, needs to know about a particular issue which they not necessarily need to look at (due lack of volunteers who cleans up that category). Which community holds the initiative to edit wikidata, at jawp or enwp in this case?
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