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Wiki Project Med Translation Dashboard

Doc James (talkcontribs)

We at Wiki Project Med are working to relaunch our translation efforts. We have built a dashboard that lists the articles that are ready to translate but missing in a target language. When you click on the "translate" link it loads the lead of the article from MDWiki into a userspace and than loads that userspace into CTX.

To get to translating; however, requires two more clicks. Wondering if there is a way to simple load the third page with a single click from the dashboard? Would ideally also like all the content loaded into the right column aswell... Best.

Pginer-WMF (talkcontribs)

Thanks for the feedback, @Doc James.

You brought good points. I'll provide a bit of context on why things are in the current way and aspects that we can adjust.

Regarding the direct access to the third step. We will support having direct access to the second step since the first step is useless when there is an exact search result for the page on the URL. As part of Section Translation we'll update the dashboard for Content Translation and this will be supported in the new dashboard.

However, it may be hard to skip the second step (confirmation step) completely to get to the third one. The reason is that Content Translation saves the user progress automatically (which is convenient to work in multiple sessions) and we need to show the terms under which content is stored before storing it. That is, the confirmation step is telling the user that their contributions are shared under a Creative Commons license and they need to see it before contributing. Alternative approaches where such info is shown before the first time saving occurs in the editor (when the user is focused on the translation task) are potentially distracting, but we are open for exploring other ideas.

Regarding adding all the contents to the translation, the tool was designed to provide freedom on how much content the user needs to translate to create an initial version of the article. Adding the whole article to the translation can add more pressure to the editor when dealing with long articles or complex contents that some users prefer to skip. For your particular case, articles have been pre-filtered already to include the contents that are expected to be translated, but often editors take those decisions as they translate, and our research suggests that it is useful to have visual feedback that helps to distinguish what has been translated and what is pending.

Technically, since we preload the translation for the next paragraph and users had to place their cursor anyways, the click users make on each paragraph to add it would be done anyways to place the cursor in order to edit. So I'd not expect impact on the process fluency while it provides the benefits mentioned above. Having said that, I'm happy to hear more details around this and explore how can provide better support.

Doc James (talkcontribs)

Thanks @User:Pginer-WMF Removing one of these steps will be great. With this project we are asking people to translate at most 3 to 4 paragraphs of text, so unlike with translating directly from mainspace there will not be significant burden. If pre adding is not possible, could one have a "+ Add all sections" option?

If the second screen is simple for showing the text "By continuing you agree to the Terms of Use and you irrevocably agree to release your contributions under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL." could it not occur as a pop up on the third step, and a pop up that can be suppressed upon further uses of the tool? Or the text could occur in the left hand columns of the third step? Just some thoughts. Best

Alex Blokha (talkcontribs)

Dashboard gives 404 - Not Found

Doc James (talkcontribs)
Doc James (talkcontribs)
Screen shot of content translation

@User:Pginer-WMF Thanks for allowing us to go to the 2nd step. Could we add the copyright stuff in the third column of the final page instead?

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