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Workplace or Microsoft Teams

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Timboliu (talkcontribs)

At my work we use Workplace and/ or Microsoft Teams to facilitate a dialogue. Is this somehting the Wikimedia community also is working on? So userstories are: the possibility to join a team, see the agenda of a team, etc. Regards Tim Ruijters.

TheDJ (talkcontribs)

No, MediaWiki is a wiki, not a chat platform

Timboliu (talkcontribs)

Thanks @TheDJ. The vision of Wikimedia is: Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That’s our commitment. When I read this vision I can imagine that we also want to facilitate collaboration.

TheDJ (talkcontribs)

That is a neverending road towards feature creep. It basically means we should built opensource versions of everything just on the off chance that someone wants to use it for that purpose.

i mean if u want to built an extension that does that, go right ahead, but it will probably never be better than MS Teams/Slack and it will likely never run on a wikimedia foundation server and i wouldn’t expect the wikimedia foundation to throw any kind of resourcing in such a direction.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

If you'ree interested in the process of tying MediaWiki logins to a chat-like platform, then @Qgil-WMF got that done for a Discourse server. I've not heard of anyone trying with it Microsoft Teams. You might get more information from one of the third-party MediaWiki groups, such as the MediaWiki Stakeholders' Group.

Timboliu (talkcontribs)

Thanks @Whatamidoing (WMF)! I contacted the Mediawiki Stakeholders Group to learn more about their plans to facilitate the Wikimedia community with collaborative functionality. They use Elements for this. It would be great if we could integrate this with the current Mediawiki functionality. But this is probably a strategic decision. And maybe not a direction we would like to go? Regards, Tim

Pelagic (talkcontribs)

My beef with Teams, Slack, Mattermost, etc. is that they don’t have topics within a channel to organise the discussion. (Some are adding rudimentary reply or threading.) Plus, whilst the real-time focus adds immediacy, it also means be-there-or-miss-out, which isn’t great when your collaborators are spread across a wide spread of timezones.

So a Teams channel is persistent group chat, a bit like an enhanced IRC channel.

(Skype for Business (Lync) batches IMs and saves them as messages in Outlook. You don’t get topic headings, but you do get a chance that each discussion thread will only range over one or a few subjects.)

Zulip, Discourse, web forums, MW Structured Discussions, MediaWiki talk pages (!), and even (gasp) email all allow some kind of Subject or Topic heading.

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