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Initial design feedback: Awesome Aasim

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Summary by PPelberg (WMF)

T267444: Make the affordance(s) for adding a new topic easier to identify and access

Awesome Aasim (talkcontribs)
  • What do you like about the proposed design? - I like how I can switch between visual and source editing with a single click. It makes talk pages easier to reply to, and does not have the same limitations that I would experience with other tools.
  • What do you wish was different in the proposal? - Maybe have the new topic always visible at the bottom, like how wikiHow does it.
  • Can you compare the designs being proposed here to the current experience? Can you accomplish your current workflow for adding new discussions with this proposal? - I think for me I do not notice much different, except for the fact that now I can do visual editing. I use one of my user scripts very often when making new topics.
  • What other improvements do you think would be valuable for us to consider making to the new tool? - that's it. Thanks for the information! :)
PPelberg (WMF) (talkcontribs)

+1 to what @JKlein (WMF) shared: thank you for taking the time to review the design and share the feedback you have @Awesome Aasim.

So you're aware, the work involved with making the affordance(s) for adding a new topic easier to identify and access will happen in this ticket: phab: T267444.

A question for you in the meantime: can you share a link to the user script you referred to using to make new topics? [i]


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i. ...I use one of my user scripts very often when making new topics.

Awesome Aasim (talkcontribs)
PPelberg (WMF) (talkcontribs)
JKlein (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Thanks for your feedback. I am definitely thinking about a sticky button and/or additional new topic button floating somewhere on the page for future iterations.

I'm glad that you are able to complete your current workflow with the proposed design.

Awesome Aasim (talkcontribs)

@JKlein (WMF) What I mean is that the "New section" form is visible at the bottom of every talk page :)

JKlein (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Thanks @Awesome Aasim - I actually did a mockup of that idea, but we didn't think it was appropriate for this first release where we were just trying to get the infrastructure in place to move the conversation in context (not in a separate window). The challenge here is of course that it's at the bottom of the page and contributors will have to hunt to find it. This is the general issue that many junior contributors seem to experience with the Talk pages at the moment - orienting themselves to the flow (no pun intended) of the page. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.

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