Topic on Project talk:Proposal for changing logo of MediaWiki, 2020

Naleksuh (talkcontribs)

If proposal 6 was successful, proposal 5 also should have been successful. Seems like another attempt by the initiator/closer (yes, they are the same person) to use their own point of view

Carn (talkcontribs)

Proposal 5 have more than 2/3 support, this is classic wiki border in votings.


Why proposal 1 is not closed yet with a % of support?

Naleksuh (talkcontribs)

Yeah I think someone needs to reevaluate this closure. The fact that it was closed by not only someone heavily involved but '''the person who started the proposal''' does not help either

Carn (talkcontribs)

@Iniquity - who can we ask to settle this?

Carn (talkcontribs)

I took on faith 71% that the @Ladsgroup put, but it was a mistake. Real number much lower.

Ladsgroup (talkcontribs)

It's not just the percentage, it's the number too, 60 support vs. 12 support is much smaller in borderline cases. I would be happy if someone double check this. How the actual number is a mistake?

Carn (talkcontribs)

13 pro / 9 contra / 1 neutral = 23 total

13/23 = 0,5652173913043478

Ladsgroup (talkcontribs)

In Wikimedia (at least fawiki and enwiki where I edit) we don't count neutral as total otherwise it would be the same as oppose.

Carn (talkcontribs)

or we do not count neutral votes to calculate %?

Carn (talkcontribs)

i'll fix this

Ladsgroup (talkcontribs)

I don't think we should accept anything lower than 70% TBH. At least for RfAs, RfCs and other things, nothing below 70% passes unless a very good reason (as a 'crat)

Carn (talkcontribs)

It don't change the picture, there is only one proposal with 74% (63 votes pro), the other two options with the most votes have 56% (29 votes pro) and 61% (25 votes pro). In ruwiki we have 2/3 = 66,(6) as usual border (for admins votes) and 3/4=75% for buerocrats votes.

Naleksuh (talkcontribs)

Why was it changed from 71% though? At least proposal 5 is a variant on the current logo. All of the options in proposal 6 are terrible. People should be able to vote between specifically those two.

Carn (talkcontribs)

I don't know where 71% was from

13 pro / 9 contra = 22 total

13/22 ~ 59%

Sdkb (talkcontribs)

I would have read this as proposal 14 having enough support to warrant consideration in round 2.

Ladsgroup (talkcontribs)

Yes, but 1- 60% is still pretty small, I don't recall any successful RfC in any wiki that would pass with that percentage 2- The opposes in this proposal seem to be pretty stronger than the other proposals.

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