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Can we switch on translation for this page?

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Summary by Kghbln

Switched to translation.

Iniquity (talkcontribs)

Now I was a little surprised when I saw outdated news in the Russian version.

Quiddity (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I think it might be even more complicated than usual, because of the existing manual translations. I.e. I don't know what would happen if we simply added the usual <translate> markup, because all of the existing subpages are currently located where the software-generated pages would normally be placed. Maybe User:Nikerabbit can advise on the best way to solve this?

(See also Topic:V35xf4mp6jxeozb1 for earlier similar discussions.)

Iniquity (talkcontribs)

I think @Base can tell us how to do it :) We have already done this with some page.

Base (talkcontribs)

It implies a lot of work to manually (or semi-automatically with Special:PageMigration) transfer the existing translations to Translate, but the process itself is quite straightforward. I've provided Iniquity with the information needed. But could you, Quiddity (WMF), lower the protection of the template so that Iniquity can start adding the translate tags?

Quiddity (WMF) (talkcontribs)

IIUC, that template Template:MediaWiki News is cascade-protected via Template:Main page so I cannot lower it. But if you make the edits in a sandbox version, I'd be happy to copy them across when ready! :)

Iniquity (talkcontribs)
Quiddity (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Now done. The main page didn't break, so I think you're good to go on the rest of it. Thanks again!

Baris6161TURK (talkcontribs)

Yes. It's really worked but the News page is showing <translate> tags. I think News page should be redirected to Template:MediaWiki News. Is that a good thing?

Quiddity (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I've fixed that by piping the transclusion through template:TNT

Kghbln (talkcontribs)

This killed 14 years of translations for the German version of the template. I am pretty angry. How do we go about this?

Quiddity (WMF) (talkcontribs)

@Kghbln I believe Iniquity plans to copy the historical translations across, per the comment earlier in the thread from Base (I.e. "It implies a lot of work to manually (or semi-automatically with Special:PageMigration) transfer the existing translations to Translate, but the process itself is quite straightforward. I've provided Iniquity with the information needed").

Kghbln (talkcontribs)

He will encounter problems here since the German translations not always matched the English original with regards to content and structure. Moreover it is probably the only language that was basically up to date at most of the times.

Iniquity (talkcontribs)

I hope that the strings match.

Kghbln (talkcontribs)

No, they do not. However I found another solution which is acceptable from my point of view. So no need to migrate. I am no longer grumpy. :D

Iniquity (talkcontribs)

Thanks! But it is necessary to translate in any case :)

Kghbln (talkcontribs)

All current news are translated via Translate. Good enough for me. Thanks for migrating.

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