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Not useful !

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Summary by Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE)
Nicolas de Bourgoing (talkcontribs)

Template:Bonjour

I already use Navigation popups, so its useless to use this tool. And 99% of wikipedians that saw "Reference preview" already know the existence of "Nav. popups"...

WikiUser1018 (talkcontribs)

I completely disagree with your opinion, Nicolas.

I was always annoyed that the popups were available in mobile version of Wiki but not in desktop version. When I looked at the Beta-Features for the first time now I was very happy that it exists and instantly activated it.

Although I'd consider myself a "Wiki power reader" I realize now that I was never a power user since I never heard of "Nav.popups" nor of Wiki-Skins at all.

So I forcefully question that 99% and assume that you are in a type-of-user bubble were you might feel that way.

In addition we must not forget that beta features are intended to become standard one day and in that stage they will reach a lot more people than any skin features ever will.

And this is one feature I think will make "wikiing" much more comfortable even to those users that aren't aware that they are missing out this comfort at the moment. So did I: as mentioned above as soon as I got used to that feature in mobile version of Wiki I strongely missed it in desktop version.

Just not enough to google it, I suppose, since I just didn't think there was any possibility to adjust Wiki's look and feel at all.

So on the whole I suggest you just consider this beta feature to be the navigation popups feature on it's way to getting a standard feature. Which it truly deserves, I think.

Nicolas de Bourgoing (talkcontribs)

Okay, I see. In fact you more right than what I thought, because "Nav popups..." is very unlovely... Thanks ! Nicolas de Bourgoing

WikiUser1018 (talkcontribs)

Wow, I just found out another big thing (ultimately outing myself as noop user): I prefer to read Wiki without logging in with my account and just use the account to edit things.

So I would be very happy if that feature would be available without logging in. That makes me the day it becomes standard very urgently! :-)

Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Is it correct when I assume you are talking about the French Wikipedia? According to fr:Special:Gadgets the gadget is not enabled by default. Users must opt-in. The same is true for Reference Previews, as they are still in Beta. If you accidentally enabled both (which can easily happen when you subscribed to "Automatically enable most beta features") you can disable one again, either on the "Beta features" or the "Gadgets" tab.

That said, we are aware of the issue and not happy with the current behavior either. We track it in phab:T234204 and will definitely do something about it before the feature goes out of Beta.

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