Topic on Project:Village Pump

why not using standard dot separators in Template:Global_templates_nav ?

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Summary by Wladek92

no solution; seems everyone can adopt here what he wants.

Wladek92 (talkcontribs)

The separator used in items lists of navigation boxes is the small centered dot; why now flower guitar 🌻 ☕ 📝 🇺🇳 📅 🎸 🤖 and undisplayable chars 🧩 are used here ? why '{ { } } is displayed around 'Global templates' on first line ? why globe icons are present at the end 🌎🌍🌏 ?

Christian FR (talk) 13:53, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Amire80 (talkcontribs)

Emojis instead of dots — because it looks nice and has some personality, color, and meaning. Sunflower = MediaWiki, coffee = discussion, U.N. flag = translation, robot = bot, calendar = status updates, etc.

The character 🧩 is a puzzle piece, which is a common symbol related to Wikipedia. This character works on my machine, but emojis are sometimes displayed differently on different machines.

The triple globe in curly brackets is a symbol of "global templates". The curly brackets are a well-known representation of templates.

I think that these decorations make the navigation box cute and refreshing and don't hurt its functionality. However, I don't want to exclusively own it, so if you are very strongly bothered by it, feel free to remove these decorations. It's much more important to discuss the proposal itself than the emojis in the navigation box :)

(Also, it would be better to ask these questions on the talk pages. I only noticed it because @Ciencia Al Poder pinged me in on this page.)

Wladek92 (talkcontribs)

Dear Amire I understand your position but the pages must be as simple, light, short and clear as possible. Adding icons leads to write and find us back the table where the list of icons is described with their signification and learn them to use. As an administrator I translate pages, make redreading, check the presentation and links to assure the coherence of the navigation through pages of the different wikis. I have no special competence to argue on the topics inside, although I have a background on the technical notions they are related to. So please reuse the existing presentation where possible to integrate the standard scheme. Thanks.

Wladek92 (talkcontribs)

I have made tests concerning the portability of using Emoji in the .pdf generated page and it appears that more of that, they are NOT RENDERED.

Result in Global_templates_Proposed_specification.pdf generated :

Environment Project status updof tates 􀀀 Alternative solutions 􀀀 Relationship to strategy
Related projects Wikilambda 􀀀 Multilingual Templates and Modules (bot) 􀀀 Shadow namespaces RFC
{{􀀀􀀀􀀀}}

Compared result of a Documentation_Style_guide_fr.pdf generated navigation box using standard centered dots :

Politiques Règles du développement · Règles des interfaces stables · Gerrit/règles des privilèges · Police du support pour PHP
Général Sécurité, pour les développeurs · Liste de vérifications pré-commit · Liste de vérification de sécurité pour les développeurs ·
Internationalisation
Amire80 (talkcontribs)

If they are replaced with different characters, it's a bug in the PDF renderer.

And what does it have to do with PDF in the first place? Navigation boxes are for clickable links, and they are not even necessary in PDF at all.

Wladek92 (talkcontribs)

Just respect what already exists and works since it brings nothing new. Discussion becomes ridiculous i close the topic.